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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 : 12:01:37

seems the've managed to combine the worst of both worlds...

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 : 12:48:05

Valiant, come to lake Texoma to visit that factory.

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MartinJW
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Response Posted - 08/19/2008 : 14:12:09

[IRONY]

Wow! The worst of both worlds: a poorly performing power boat AND a sailboat that doesn't sail well! And, check out the girl in the bikini on the foredeck, and the cool folks in the cabin!

Where do I send my deposit check!?

[/IRONY]

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hightower4442
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 : 15:59:11

Hunter 27 Edge. I would not judge this boat until you have had the opportunity to sail one. As you all know the Mac 26 has been the standard for Motor sail boats. I have the first Hunter 27 sold in the USA. I can tell you having owned many sail boats from Hobie Cats, to day sailors and up and down the list this is a quality built boat by a company (Hunter) that stands behind the work of this boat. We just returned from a weeks cruise on the boat. It is about 1 foot longer than the Mac, wider beam and has a much larger main sail and jib sail area. Hunter took the best of the Mac, listened to sail boat owners and they nailed it with this boat. This boat does give you the best of both worlds motor and sail. It sails well in light or heavy winds, and with the motor option the 75 HP E tech, I could take my teen ager wake boarding when the wind died down or we just wanted to get some place quicker. You really need to see this boat and then go back and look at the Mac. No comparison on fit and finish the Hunter is a much better built boat and it is apparent the second you step on board. The Hunter is finished out like you would expect a Hunter to be with a head liner, nice kitchen lay out, full head option, pressurized water, water tank, and on and on. We have installed A/C/heat and the boat is really liveable. heck we even have a microwave. The boat is easy to launch (just like the mac) and easy to set up for sailing. So, this boat is not for eveyone but for those of you who want many options with your boat, this is about as close as you will ever get. Thx.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 : 16:34:21

(We just got Googled!)

I'll report back from the Newport show in a few weeks.

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 08/20/2008 16:36:02

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 : 17:29:00

Hi John, bless your pea pick'n heart. You have spoken truth, the Mac 26 is a poorly made undesirable boat designed as a marketing exercise with no concern for the quality of the ownership experience. However, a "standard for motor sail boats", no. Google motorsailer and see real boats, the Mac 26 is the Snark of Motorsailers. When a company is in trouble it is wise to build a product designed to appeal to ignorant people in a narrow niche. There is a micro subset of Mac owners who buy them for true trailering but most simply get sucked in by a ridiculous panacea. Hunter is constantly re-engineering their concept of what a sailboat is, they are a very good engineering company with no soul. As good engineers they occasionally get it right, the .5 series of the 80s for instance were well built, well found, well designed boats, there hasn't been a well found Hunter since. I do admire the willingness of Hunter to innovate, (each time turning its back on its last great idea), and this boat has to have been in the pipe for quite a while so it looks prescient to have a cross over boat just as the stink boaters begin to bail because of the high cost of fuel, but the truth is that well engineered or not, this is a bad idea. It will lead to displeased owners who will give up on sailing and we will all have lost an opportunity to grow our sport. So, John, your product may have hit its design marks but that does not make it a good sailboat, it is simply a well executed engineering exercise.
Oh and John, if you really are just a random dude who happens to have the first Edge then I hope it works for you because it cannot have been cheap, so go in peace friend and be well.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/20/2008 : 20:46:03

John, you can't expect a group like this to have much interest in a boat like the Edge... especially from Hunter, the company that brought to sailing fiberglass arches (later refined to stainless arches), backstayless rigs, oilcanning hulls (particularly in the '90s), Coors-can masts, ski-boat graphics, Euro-megayacht styling, and glitzy interiors worthy of a Sea Ray. They've sold a bunch... So has Sea Ray. Different strokes...

Add to those "innovations" the notion of marrying a Hunter with a ski boat and... well, you have to understand that it just doesn't translate with this group, in general. Imagine the reaction it'd get on the Cape Dory Owners' forum! Sailors like us prefer boats that look like and behave like sailboats, are sailed by sailors, aren't driven around by "powerboaters" (who may or may not ever learn to sail), have fully-stayed rigs, have a comfortable motion in chop, and did I mention look like sailboats? It's sorta like bikers who grew up with Harleys--a ninja bike just won't do.

But we're happy you're happy...

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 08/23/2008 : 20:33:04

The Edge is old school....

http://www.sailingtexas.com/slancer27b.html

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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/24/2008 : 00:32:19

I think I am gonna get sick.

For the love of all things floating! Pulease! Yeah, There really is nothing new under the sun! Some dumbass already tried and kind of failed. Do you know what happens to a stinkpot with sails when a sudden storm pipes up? I know my C25 went up to the windows easily, something with weird ballast and a big honkin engine will just flip over! These "things" - remember the "Thing" it was all volkswagon and a loser unless you own one now - are an accident waiting to happen. Their shallow draft has some advantages on the protected lake, but you could not pay me enough money to sail one in unprotected waters. Google that!

Sten

DPO Zephyr - '82 C25, FK, SR
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - Newport, RI - In the Anchorage 24/7

Edited by - redviking on 08/24/2008 00:33:07

stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/24/2008 : 11:37:31

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">protected lake<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

says it all.

Edited by - stampeder on 08/24/2008 21:36:50

lcharlot
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Response Posted - 08/25/2008 : 19:25:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 What I would like to see Catalina make is a 28' trailerable with 6' minimum stand up room below. Sort of like my [url="http://www.seawardyachts.com/32rk.html"]dream boat.[/url]
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While your "dream boat". the Seaward 32RK, is advertised as "trailerable", in my opinion that should be "transportable". With a 10'-6" beam, you would need a Wide Load Permit, and maybe a pilot car and a Class "A" or "B" commercial drivers license in California to tow one these boats on a public highway. I admit it does look sweet! Very classic lines and looks like it has a lot of room and creature comforts inside.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/25/2008 : 20:36:01

The Seaward 32 can be launched and retrieved by the owner. If you lived in Florida, you could haul it out on short notice during huricane season, and up here, I could haul it out before the lake freezes. And I could enjoy several lakes that are within 30KMs.
As a transportable boat, there are more venues available and more options for do-it-yourselfers.
Knowing Randy's sailing venue as I do, this would be an excellent boat for me to come and visit him on.

My favorite comment from: Hightower 4442
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As you all know the Mac 26 has been the standard for Motor sail boats. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And what a standard it is!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/26/2008 : 12:10:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Knowing Randy's sailing venue as I do, this would be an excellent boat for me to come and visit him on.
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Cool! Now I've got a pilot car driver.

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