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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 08/22/2008 :  13:12:51  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Well, we are entered in the Sunday August 31 Oceanside to San Diego PHRF spinnkaer race. 38.4 nautical miles, open ocean. I have to motor up to Oceanside the day before. There I'll be joining a big yacht club raftup. We start the race, put in 38.4 miles, then motor back to Mission Bay, another 10 miles.

Joe, Sloopsmitten, is crew for the day.

Wish us luck!

PS my new full batten loose footed Ullman main arrived Tuesday and the boat points much, much better.

Good price and good service from Ullman Ventura.

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  14:08:09  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Good luck. Noth'n like a new main to to make the boat go better.
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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  16:02:56  Show Profile
let them know who's the BOSS.

sails from gary swenson are the best all around sails.
i've won many races with these sails.

will be thinking of you.

dave holtgrave
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sailing carlyle lake in southern illinois
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  16:41:32  Show Profile
Go get 'em, Jim!
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  17:57:31  Show Profile
Yeah, I just love my old "new full batten loose footed Ullman main."

Now you'll win every race, for sure!
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  18:53:26  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Also have crew confirmed for 9/13 ocean race of 36 miles San Diego around the Coronado Islands

And

Confirmed date taking a Association member and his wife whom are visiting America's Finest City sailing on 9/6
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  19:01:42  Show Profile
Pictures! Pictures!
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zeil
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  19:30:33  Show Profile
Good luck and have fun...
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tinob
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  20:26:34  Show Profile
Way to go Jim/Joe...best of luck in the race...Hope you love the main as I have the last five years, it's a doozy

Val on Calista,#3936, Patchogue, N.Y.
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/22/2008 :  20:56:45  Show Profile
You're getting your money's worth out of that boat Jim.
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smoken
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Response Posted - 08/23/2008 :  08:27:04  Show Profile
Jim, best of luck! Can't wait to hear about it.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/23/2008 :  11:00:00  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I'm going to get a new camera today to replace the one Santa Cruz Island claimed. Almost recovered from cruise losses/damages.

I really think we have a shot. Indiscipline is very competitive downwind. Now with my new main I should be much better upwind.

I'll try to get some more weight off her next week.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/24/2008 :  10:23:09  Show Profile
With that main and your experience, you'll smoke your rating! Go Indiscipline!
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MattL
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Response Posted - 08/24/2008 :  23:02:09  Show Profile
Jim,
What size jib do you fly?
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/25/2008 :  11:17:16  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I fly a 155% dacron jib. However, I have a 135, 110, and 60 on board.

Watching Tropical Storm Julio very carefully. We have lots of humidity, thunderheads, clouds, and yesterday was very hot and windy.

Welcome to Florida.
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/25/2008 :  20:47:48  Show Profile
"Watching Tropical Storm Julio "

Looks like it's breaking up and heading for Arizona... the next 24 hours will tell the story.
Central Baja got over 6" of rain from it.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 08/29/2008 :  12:17:57  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Almost time to go! 7 boats in our spinnaker class, from a Cat 36 to a Columbia 24 (rated 258). 38.5 miles. The Cat 36 owes me almost 1 hour. Weather forecast for SW winds makes this a pointing race, hopefully winds will go to their normal NW late in the day and we can go up spin. The Cat 27 that has been consistently beating me (and everyone else) is racing.

The Cat 25 is very competitive downwind with a spinnaker. Upwind we don't point as well as the newer boats with mylar headsails. Hopefully my new main will help with that.

Traveller jamb cleats broke last night so I have a last minute repair, otherwise ready to go.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 08/29/2008 :  13:33:12  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Good luck Jim, I hope the wind and water treat Indiscipline well!
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/01/2008 :  21:12:18  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I don't know yet how we finished and I don't want to jinx it but we did well. Click below to see the photos and read the journal. We averaged 4.8 knots over 40 miles. We ran a total of about 90 miles in 2 days. Nothing broke, and fun was had by all! I don't think we could have sailed Indiscipline any faster.



http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/labday08.html

Hard to believe we ran a 40 mile race over 8 hours with only one gybe and no tacks.
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/01/2008 :  22:41:21  Show Profile
Good show Jim !
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  08:35:37  Show Profile
Your new main looks great! I bet it adds a bit of speed over the older main yo replaced.

Have you used your new/old spinnaker in a race yet? Is it bigger or smaller than your red-white-and-blue sail?
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  09:24:32  Show Profile
Good job Jim! From your journal, it sounds like you sailed fast and smart.
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Prospector
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  09:33:07  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I love reading these writeups. always something new to think about. Great job!
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  11:58:31  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
There were several important tactical desisions -

(1) should we head up as high as possible early and get farther offshore? After 5 hours we were about 1/2 mile inside of the competition. We were on the rhumb line, sailing just a little low, making 5.5 knots. Winds were forecast on Sailflow to be stronger inside.

(2) when winds went light and aft (right on the beam) should we go up spin? Competition was outside and pulling ahead significantly. The S2 was over a mile ahead with 15 miles to go. The Santana 25 was pulling ahead. We were wallowing at 3 knots. My boat points high under spin. We did go up and we had to work very very hard to lay the mark. Apparant winds were far ahead. We lost a lot of ground during the last 8 miles, but maintained about 3.5 knots - at time much higher as we rode puffs. The other boats had to come down to the mark and we laid it exactly. We did a great gybe of the chute and they had to douse and hoist. On the last 3 miles they went really deep and we heated up as high as possible, working every puff.

However, no one else went up spin on this leg.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  13:21:05  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
By the way, I did get 3rd, just a few minutes behind the Santana 25 (rated 213 to my 228).

It was great to have a 28, two 25s and a 24 in the race.

Next events:

9/6 taking a fellow C25 member sailing (open invite for any members visiting San Diego, don't forget!)

9/13 PHRF Around the Coronados race

10/3 - 10/4 San Diego - Ensenada PHRF race.
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SEAN
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 :  13:32:10  Show Profile
Jim your a sailing machine !!
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