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michaelj
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Initially Posted - 08/30/2008 : 16:44:45

On the way from my marina to the Neuse River there is a wicked little shoal on which I have grounded a few times. Most of the time I can get myself off of it with my outboard (Yamaha 9.9 hp.) The last time I went out I was fooling around with the sails and got blown onto the shoal and REALLY grounded. I had to use a lot of the outboard in kind of spurts to get off, and the lower pintil of the rudder came out of the gudgeon. I managed to remove the rudder and motor back to the marina. When replacing the rudder I noted that there was a chunk about 1 1/2" long and maybe 1/2" deep missing from the forward side. So, (a) do I need to do anything about the rudder, and (b) have I treed my outboard, or does it just need some TLC. Thanks.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/30/2008 : 21:01:51

>"(a) do I need to do anything about the rudder"

I'd use epoxy + filler to repair the damaged area. Fill in layers, then re-contour with rasp/sandpaper (etc.) to match the original surface. Marine-tex is a popular pre-mixed product for this sort of repair. There is quite a bit of information about boat repair available online.

>" have I treed my outboard, or does it just need some TLC"

Eh? What did you do to the outboard?

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michaelj
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Response Posted - 08/31/2008 : 10:00:18

I pushed the boat off the shoal using the outboard--which took a while and I had to run it pretty wide open. Thanks for the advice about the rudder.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/31/2008 : 10:14:48

"I pushed the boat off the shoal using the outboard--which took a while and I had to run it pretty wide open"

Shouldn't hurt it unless you got the prop out of the water or hit something.
They are designed to run at full rpm for sustained periods without damage.

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michaelj
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Response Posted - 08/31/2008 : 11:58:22

OK, thanks. The prop did jump out of the water a few times but never for very long. I guess that I will just keep on keepin' on--and try to avoid shoals.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 07:20:00

On our lake we have a shoal called "Long Shoal" which is aptly named. It is lon, shallow, and deadly. In order to help avoid it, I have plugged in the coordinates of th eshoal in th eGPS, and then made a box around it with four additional points called "Long Shoal Warning."

Our policy now is that we do not go inside the warning box. You might want to try something similar.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:10:58

Why don't people walk their boats off groundings? I can't imagine hurting my boat to keep my feet dry.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:41:52

"I can't imagine hurting my boat to keep my feet dry."

How about 52 degree water where the shallows are frequented by sharks and sting-rays?
I like to keep my hands and feet inside the boat!

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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 08:56:30

On a Sunfish years ago in Little Pleasant Bay at Cape Cod, I ran aground on sand bars so numerous and so shallow that it was easy to step off and walk around before starting out again with the centerboard down. My sailing friend found a bunch of unwary scallops once at a depth of 3 feet, so it was nice to pull the boat around a shoal that day.

If I were to run aground in the Chesapeake Bay and jump out I might sink a foot or two into the black mud. Nice for anchoring, not for strolling about. Case closed.

Good idea sometimes.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 11:16:24

Walking the boat out is fine in some areas and not so fine in others sas noted by the others. When i sailed on Long Island Island south shore waters, I oftentime got out and walke dmy boat out of shallow areas - That was with a 16' sailboat and in waters less than 2 feet deep...and with a 13' sailboat down to about 6" or so. But in the Potomac River north near Wash DC area, i would not do it if in shallow waters since one can sink in the mud, catch the flesh eating bacteria or possibly get stabbed by a used syringe.

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michaelj
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 15:15:09

Actually, walking it out is not a bad idea. The Neuse River, however, is Pfiesteria Central.

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Stellaluna
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 15:48:26

Sometimes you can pitch your anchor out as far as you can aft, and pull yourself off that way.

When I was sailing in Florida getting out and walking off was practical most of the time, but like JohnP, I'm in the Chesapeake and its tributaries, and muck is all you get. That means you run aground soft, for the most part, thankfully.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/02/2008 : 16:19:20

That Pfiesteria can be pretty toxic to humans...ugh...

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