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GaryB
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Initially Posted - 09/06/2008 :  17:56:44  Show Profile
What would be a reasonable price to pay for a lightly used trailer for a C25. Something maybe 4-7 years old in reasonably good condition. I know it depends on many variables. I'm just looking for an average price.

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Response Posted - 09/06/2008 :  18:45:57  Show Profile
Between $1500 - $4500 depending on Make!
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/06/2008 :  18:48:46  Show Profile
What weight rating should I be looking for, around 7K?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/06/2008 :  22:34:25  Show Profile
Minimum weight rating would be 7K. You want dual 3500 lb axles. If you are going to do a lot of hauling, you will probably also want 15 in. wheels, otherwise 14's should do fine. 6 ply load range D tires rated for approx. 1800 lbs each. The trailer we bought has F78 x 14 in. tires.

Correction: I meant to say load range C, which is 1760 lbs. The metric version of F78x14 is 205/75R14. I think the 15 in. metric version is 225/75R15.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/07/2008 :  08:55:53  Show Profile
David,

Thanks for your reply. What trailer do you have?
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/07/2008 :  09:55:23  Show Profile
"Minimum weight rating would be 7K. You want dual 3500 lb axles."

That's a minimum. For serious towing you need to step up to 5,000 lb axles.

My experience with 'everything trailer' is that the manufacturers are pretty er... 'optimistic' in their ratings. If you don't exceed 75% of the rated capacity things work pretty well. If you tow anywhere near the rated limits you've got worries.

While you'e at it, stainless disc brakes are the only way to go.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/08/2008 :  17:24:32  Show Profile
GaryB, the trailer I found, after months of searching, was in Dayton, OH. It is a Trailrite, 1977 model year, dual axle, with surge brakes. It has 6 adjustable pads, and 14" tires. I had to replace the wood keel guides and carpet. It also has a tongue extension, but we won't be using that until I can get a quick disconnect link for the brake line. Meanwhile, we'll use the strap/cable method.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/08/2008 :  18:55:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It also has a tongue extension, but we won't be using that until I can get a quick disconnect link for the brake line.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Why do you need a quick disconnect?
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/08/2008 :  19:42:36  Show Profile
I found a 2003 Magic Tilt trailer setup for a Mac 260. It's rated for 6890#'s and has brakes. I will obviously have to make some modifications to the bunks to get it to fit properly but with Hurricane Ike bearing down on us and Houston looking like it could be ground zero for a Cat 2 or 3 I'm starting to freak out. I'm on a floating dock 2 slips from the shoreline in a relatively protected marina but the docks are old, old and built of all wood. I share a narrow 10' wide slip with another 25' boat that's been sitting for quite sometime with no apparent use. I do not have a piling or cleat to tie the right aft of the boat.

My other option is to move it to a marina protected by land on all sides except for a narrow channel. This marina had all new metal floating docks installed about 2 years ago but consists of mainly motor cruisers from 30' up to 120'. The only problem is it's only about 1.5 miles farther inland on a narrow lake off of Galveston Bay. Land elevaion is maybe 10' above sea level so storm surge could be a big issue.

I won't be towing that often or far and could always put heavier axles under it at a later time.

Thoughts?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  07:57:08  Show Profile
It sounds like the Mac260 trailer has the weight capacity. I bet it has the 3500 lb axles. Sounds like your boat won't be on it for very long or traveling very far. Hope you have enough time for the necessary mods before the storm hits, and good luck.

Regarding the quick disconnect, the guy who sold me the trailer, an auto salvage guy, replaced the coupler and repaired the brakes before I picked up the trailer (part of the deal). We talked about the brake line problem. He did not have the parts to make the brake line flexible or long enough to extend the trailer tongue. So, I can't use the extension until I alter the brake system. right noe, it's not a big deal for me. Our ramp is fairly shallow and most with a full keel trailer have to use a cable or strap anyway.
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  08:09:09  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
The latest models show Ike maintaining a more westerly movement. Let's pray the current track holds true or it goes even further west and south!
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  08:44:01  Show Profile
Amen!
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  14:15:23  Show Profile
Good luck with dealing with that Hurricane.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">So, I can't use the extension until I alter the brake system. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I still don't get it...why would you need brakes when using a tongue extension?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  14:52:09  Show Profile
It's not that I need the brakes. The surge brake line is a rigid, hollow metal tube, not flexible, running from the wheels to the coupler/trailer tongue, which is on the end of the extension bar. The extension bar is not a separate attachment like the extension bars that ride under the trailer or go between the trailer and tow vehicle. So, in order to use the extension, I would need to disconnect the brake line or have enough additional flexible line to stretch the length of the extension bar so the line stays connected. Right now I don't have either one. The quick disconnect device makes it possible to release the brake line without having to bleed the brakes after reconnecting the line.
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 09/09/2008 :  17:17:38  Show Profile
thank you for the clarification.
I'm in the process of rebuilding my trailer and was wondering if I was missing something or if there was a better way to do what I'm doing. Also, just had my brake line cut, so I'm in brake mode.
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