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sweetcraft
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Initially Posted - 10/08/2008 :  00:15:34  Show Profile
Just had some luck with posting pictures so here's another.



I have used this method with a line bridle for the 79 SKTR since day one. Because I go to the San Juan's every other year I had to have a system for on the water mast raising and I was told that I could get the boat if I could do the rigging myself. Thanks to a lot of people the method evolved with a line bridle which also steadies the mast and the gin pole (spinnaker pole). You can see the second set of lines to the mast. Next summer the boat will be 30 and it just gets better.



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RBArrowood
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Response Posted - 10/08/2008 :  10:23:17  Show Profile
Jim..Could you give some detail on how long your spinnaker pole is and how it is attached to the mast. Also a little more detail on how the mast is supported from side to side. I know the A Frame would solve all these problems but as I do not have one and do not want to store one I like the idea of using the spinnaker pole.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 10/08/2008 :  21:23:41  Show Profile
Maybe some pictures where the spinnaker pole attaches to the mast? This seems like a little cleaner design than the A-Frame.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 10/08/2008 :  23:56:31  Show Profile
The pole is the J length which I don't know the measurement but I have used the boom on other 25's by attaching at the mast base with a 3/8" bolt with the head cutoff and secured with 2 nuts. A 3/8" hole in the outer end of the boom makes for a secure connection when used as a gin pole and it is just short enough to fit passed the bow pulpit when attached to the fore stay and the main sheet at the bow.

My pole is attached to a car at the lowest point on the track on the forward edge of the mast.


The SS ring is the connection point of the fore stay, the main sheet and the bridle.

This picture is with the mast resting on the crutch after I lowered it and it is the starting point of when I raise it from the crutch.

This is how the bridle is attached and the ring is taped so that I don't keep hitting the deck with it when I set up. I do have the clips labeled, port, starboard, front, back which saves time when I have help. There is a second line attached at the rings which is secured at the mast at the halyard of the spinnaker lift. This is what keeps the mast centered which the A frame system requires you to do the centering.

Hope this helps the understanding of the bridle system.
I always tell who is helping me not to catch the mast. I have seen stern pulpits with a dip where it catches the mast when it gets away. Practice on the trailer helps build the confidence for on the water mast raising.


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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 10/09/2008 :  08:40:04  Show Profile
Is there a bridle on both sides of the boat, and what line are you using from the bridle to the mast? If not a halyard, is it permanently attached to the mast?

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RBArrowood
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Response Posted - 10/09/2008 :  10:16:36  Show Profile
Jim. Thanks for the pictures. Still not entirely clear but it gives me something to work on over the winter. I've been using the marina staff and a gin pole to get it down. Needs to be scheduled and is more costly than I like...besides I just like to do things myself.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 10/10/2008 :  00:08:03  Show Profile
The bridle is on both sides as the lines hold the gin pole so that it keeps the pole in the center position. The A frame does the same thing but holds the center position of the point of where the main sheet and the halyard connect and is not attached to the mast and is not effected by pivot point of the mast at the step and the pivot point where the A frame is attached. The spinnaker pole halyard is used to secure at the mast the second set of bridle lines that hold the mast in the center of the boat. I can use the system without the mast bridle but you don't want boat wakes as you have to steady the mast in the center of the boat. Both systems pivot about 90 degrees and work well but the bridle system can be stored aboard in a small bag. I got my information from a book for trailer sailing by Royce and he used the trailer winch for power. I prefer to raise the mast on the water as it was pointed out not as far to fall. An other reason for in the water is that other ramp users don't have to wait for a mast set up. The bridle I have is almost as old as the boat, a 79. Hope you have a system that is safe and doesn't keep you from sailing.

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