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welshoff
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Initially Posted - 11/06/2008 : 15:20:37

I was looking for some ideas on placement of a cabin heater. I was looking at a solid fuel cabin heater (Newport), as I don't use it a lot and don't want to mess with the propane or the diesel/kerosene. Just something to take the chill off in the cooler days of fall/winter/spring.

My two initial thoughts are: 1) to mount heater above table on the mast compresion post and exit cabin ceiling with stove pipe on port side of mast (more of a permanent mounting). 2) Mount it to a pipe similar to the table leg (more of a "seasonal" mount). Run the stove pipe to the same port side of mast to exit cabin top. Then, when I need the heater in the fall/winter/spring, just pull out the table and connect the stove. In the summer, just take heater out of boat and cap off the stove pipe.

Anybody already done this? or any better ideas out there.

Wil Elshoff
"Arcturus"
2004 - C250 WK #732

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/06/2008 : 15:56:13

One of the problems in the 250 is the absence of bulkheads. I think the only place to mount this is on the bulkhead forward of the head. I think it would just be in the way anywhere else.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 11/06/2008 : 16:39:00

Wil,
We use a Coleman portable propane heater designed for golf carts. It comes with a canister holder that steps down to fit into a drink holder on our cooler, so you can "mount" it anywhere the cooler is, or use it's bipod that it also comes with it to place it above the floor.

I think if I were going to buy another heater for the boat I'd look into a Heat Buddy or something like that. It has an auto-off in lack of oxygen feature that I like, as well as a tilt shutoff which might be problematic on a boat, but not sure.

I know this isn't what you were asking for, but we're in the PNW too, and I thought I'd share what we do to keep the chill down.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/06/2008 : 20:00:55

We went with the Mr Heater Buddy and it is great! Here is a thread that I started on this topic and the results and ideas from members.

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17765&SearchTerms=buddy"]Heater[/url]

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 11/07/2008 : 09:22:56

Thanks for the responses. I have used the cataltic heaters as well. But, want to move on to something that doesn't give off the vapor and the smell. It is a wife thing.

So, I found a Newport solid fuel heater and will post some photos in a month or so after I get the project complete. I saw photos of a Newport/Dickeson heater in a C250 couple years ago. It was mounted on the port side of the cabin on the wall between the head and cabin. I like this area too much for a lounge spot to put a heater there. A couple years back there were some threads in the Hunter forum of a 25.5 all decked out and cruising to the bahama's. The threads are not around anymore, but he installed a heater on the starboard side of the boat on a 1" stainless steel frame. He made it so it could be removed during the part of the season it was not in use (kind of a "U" shaped frame with pull pins). So I may look into this idea as well.

My goal in the future is to cruise up the inside passage to Alaska (1-2 years away). Warm mornings and nights would be a topper. I also am doing some winter racing up hear in PNW and would apprciate some heat to take off the chill.

So stay tuned.

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Response Posted - 11/07/2008 : 14:27:37

I wonder if it would fit under the stairs mounted on the head wall aft of the door? Exhaust would be an issue but, I think you could route something out through the wet locker in the head or just forward of the port winch.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/08/2008 : 10:33:05

Wil, keep me posted on the trip to Alaska or any other similar PNW trip. We are interested as well if you would like company.

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 11/08/2008 : 13:23:01

I will do some "dry fit" ideas then go from there. The stairs location may work, just the 3" stove pipe to deal with?

Randy - I'll keep you posted - my original plan was this summer (09), but I changed jobs and need to reorginize the plan. It probably will stretch my time frame out another 1-2 years?

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 15:38:27

You could safely use carbon monoxide producing heat sources, like propane and charcoal, to heat your boat's cabin if you put the fire outside and pipe in heated water or air. Every small airplane that I have encountered in decades of flying has a "heat muff" can around an exhaust pipe. Air flows from outside thru the can to gain heat and then into the cabin. A very simple boat heater would consist of a pipe running thru a charcoal grill on the deck with a small fan to push air thru the hot pipe and on into the cabin. In Summer months replace the charcoal with ice and you have a cabin cooler.

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 15:50:49

Here's website with pictures of heat muffs used on some light planes.
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Hardware/Heating.html

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 11/18/2008 : 17:53:17

That's what I used om my Rotax 503.

paulj

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Patrice C25
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Response Posted - 11/19/2008 : 08:04:23

Hi,
This is the same idea VW was using in the original beatle. It was heating the air around the exaust pipe. Was great until the thing start to rust...

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 11/19/2008 : 10:14:50

Well, my deal on the wood stove fell through. Back to looking for the equipment and running ideas through my head again.

Maybe I'll mount a VW engine on the back of the boat. Get heat and propulsion.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/22/2008 : 19:15:28

Brinkman sells a 3000 btu heater that fits on a small propane bottle like you use for lanterns or camp stoves. Costs about $50. Check it out at Sportsmans Guide.
Has a tripod type stand so it would be okat while at anchor or would need to be secured somehow.

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