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replace backstay chainplate???

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viniciusbcarmo
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Initially Posted - 12/12/2008 : 22:39:28

I'm in the middle of my big project of rebuilding my C25 after IKE, and didn't plan to replace any of the chainplates. But the backstay chainplates were scratched during IKE and are now rusting where it was scratched. Bought all new standing rigging from CD and now I'm afraid of the chainplates...
Do I need to replace them?
Any experience replacing them?
Nuts behind? That would be a big problem, need to cut through the tramson?

I'm trying to attach a picture but doens't work, do I need some special permission to attach photos?
Thanks!!!
Vini

Vini Carmo
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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/12/2008 : 22:49:10

trying to post picture:

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/13/2008 : 05:23:44

What year is your boat? On my 1977, I was able to unbolt them. It wasn't easy, but I got up there with a wrench and got them off. Don't know about newer boats.
The chainplates are stainless and shouldn't be rusting at all. I can't understand that. I wouldn't replace them, I'd polish them.

Here is a link to a discussion about posting photos.
[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17560&SearchTerms=photo"]How to post photos[/url]

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 12/13/2008 : 07:59:31

...and here are the general instructions for [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2623"]posting photos[/url]

I use Shutterfly and upload photos to my folders on that free site. Then I view the full-size photo by double clicking, get the "properties" by right clicking on the photo, and copy the properties url into the "image" code on my Forum message.

Give it a try! Your repairs are best discussed with photos to show us what you're doing.

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 : 17:29:28

Registration states she was built in 1984 model 1985, don't know if there is any difference though...
Ok lets try the picture deal, I created the account and copied the URL, here it goes:

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 : 17:32:51

trying again:

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 : 17:37:01

Cool it worked now!
Here is how I found her the day after IKE, pretty beat up...

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 : 17:39:17

I think I would have to replace those. That rust streak is scary. But then, I'm kind of a grandmother about those things.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 08:17:53

Yes, way beyond what I was envisioning.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 08:51:05

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 08:53:21

Has anyone replaced them before?
Do I need to drill through the fiberglass to get access? Nuts behind?
Thanks!

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Bortiquai
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 09:53:02

On my 1980, there are two circular access ports in the cockpit on the transom for accessing the hardware in there. They are located right beneath where the traveler bar is attached. Makes getting in there for the backstay chainplates, traveler bar, whatever else is in there much easier.

If the PO hadn't already added these access ports, it's something i would have done myself. I don't think it's too difficult. I bought the boat after the PO had a dis-mast because his lowers eyebolt broke. Snapped the mast right in half at the spreaders.

So, the first thing I did after I bought it was splice the mast. The second thing I did was replace all of the chainplates, including the stem fitting and back stay.

Maybe they were ok, but the few bucks and a weekend project were worth the peace of mind.

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 14:00:53

Thanks for your response, Bortiquai, seems like another project for my loooong to do list...
I was really hoping I didn't have to cut the access ports in the cockpit, but given the piece of mind I guess I will do it sooner or later.

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 : 18:45:37

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Has anyone replaced them before?
Do I need to drill through the fiberglass to get access? Nuts behind?
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Yes I took mine off and did not cut any fiberglass. You can get to the nuts from the inside, it's just not easy.

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/16/2008 : 21:54:34

Wow how did you do that, particularly on the starboard side?
Any special tools?
Pictures are always welcome, thanks!

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/17/2008 : 17:14:57

Vinni,
There are nuts that are accessible from the quarter berth. I hung a 9/16" wrench from the nuts and removed the screws. This photo is looking up from the quarter berth. You can't see them, but I could reach them with a wrench. Probably gonna need a kid or the wife with smaller arms to screw the nuts back on after replacing. Or maybe make a special wrench. The nut in the photo is for the traveller on the stbd side. Your boat might be different.

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viniciusbcarmo
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Response Posted - 12/17/2008 : 22:05:22

Many thanks HappyD, I will go work on her this weekend and give it a try and let you know how it goes, will try to get a picture under there like that even without seeing it may clarify things too!
Best regards,
Vini

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/18/2008 : 07:43:55

Yup, kinda working blind up there, but I was able to get a wrench on it. I am thinking about welding a socket to a flat bar to put the nut back on. Put the nut in the socket and super glue the washer to the face of the socket. Still thinking about re-installing it. I get it after I spray the gelcoat. It's just too cold to do gelcoat work in Michigan right now so I'm on hold....again.

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