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B Baldwin
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Initially Posted - 02/07/2009 :  07:11:10  Show Profile
There is a Catalina 25 listed on Craigslist lgi with a steering wheel for $4,200. Photos, but none of the wheel.
Brad B
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  10:40:11  Show Profile
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/boa/1024251985.html
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  10:55:14  Show Profile
Maybe I'm crazy, but based on how the 25 (vs the 250) is set up with an over the transom rudder, why would anyone install a wheel . . .
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  10:58:41  Show Profile
I can't understand a wheel on a 25' boat regardless of the rudder set up.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  11:39:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bigelowp</i>
<br />Maybe I'm crazy, but based on how the 25 (vs the 250) is set up with an over the transom rudder, why would anyone install a wheel . . .
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The swing of the tiller makes much of the cockpit seating awkward to use while sailing. I think the wheel is usually intended to make the seats forward of the wheel more usable. If your passengers are willing to move each time you tack, the tiller isn't really a problem.

Most of the bigger boats have wheels, but when you change from a tiller to a wheel, it takes awhile to readjust to it, because the wheel doesn't provide much feedback.
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Deric
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  12:14:52  Show Profile
Hi Folks,

Perhaps some folks can also comment about the lazy jack system as per the pictures of the boat listed in this post. I have a 25 swing keel with no lazy jack system in place. The boom stays up via topping lift and the slug stop in the mast.

Pros and Cons on the LJ system please?

Much obliged,
Deric
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  12:21:42  Show Profile
I love to be able to dump the mainsail, particularly when I'm alone, and not worry about it until I'm secure in my slip.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  12:37:50  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John Russell</i>
<br />I love to be able to dump the mainsail, particularly when I'm alone, and not worry about it until I'm secure in my slip.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's the pro... A con I've heard is occasionally snagging a batten when hoisting the main. I think that can be solved by substantially slackening the Lazy Jacks so they sag down by the mast and boom before hoisting. The adjusting line can be led back to the cockpit if your halyards are. What's really cool is the Dutchman system, which neatly flakes the sail as it comes down... but that requires more rigging and modifications to the sail.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  12:56:04  Show Profile
Yeah, I occasionally cuss at them as I raise the main if I'm not dead into the wind. A neighbor installed a dutchman in his this past season and that looked pretty cool. The cost difference is substantial though. Not to mention the fact that you have to intentionally put holes in your mainsail for it to work. I'm also not a big fan of the effect of the jacks on sail shape if they're not adequately loosened while underway. Like everything else, it's a trade-off. My jacks are secured on the boom. It would be more convenient to adjust them while underway if they weren't.

Did I mention I hate winter?
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Old Disco Queen
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Response Posted - 02/07/2009 :  16:30:49  Show Profile
I hate winter too! Today all the snow is melting (heat wave of 40's) here in Illinois. Went out to see Old Disco...she wants the wind something bad!

Stephen
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/09/2009 :  10:47:40  Show Profile
How do fully battened mains handle with lazy jacks? Any improvement (or is it worse) than traditionally battened sails as far as snagging is concerned?
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/09/2009 :  13:14:33  Show Profile
It's really just a minor annoyance. Just pay attention to the sail and the rocking of the the boat. The weight of the batten will cause the it to fall away from the jack as the mast sways. That's when you pull quickly. They only catch at the ends of the pockets where there is extra material to sang the line. If you're deed into the wind while hoisting, you'll have less problems.
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glen
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Response Posted - 02/09/2009 :  13:57:06  Show Profile
If you go with Lazy Jacks, look into replacing the sail slugs with a track. I believe that the track and car system will drop the main with out a hang up. I took my lazy jacks off because my slugs would hang up (especially the ones adjacent to the battens). Because of this the main would not drop completely, and I would always need to go forward to pull the remainder of the sail down. I also feel after the sail is down it needs to be tied, so if I have to go forward anyway I see no advantage to that system.
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