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Turk
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Response Posted - 05/06/2009 : 17:18:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Hi Peter... Perhaps you've already concluded this (from your experiences), but whether it's working nicely or not, I recommend lowering and starting the engine before you drop your sails. Most times, it can help you stay head-to-wind at least for dropping the main, but best of all, with the engine started and running, you can do everything at a relaxed pace.
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This is exctly what we do for putting up and lowering the main. The Honda 9.9HP, at near idle, is sufficient to keep us pointed into the wind which makes raising and dousing/flaking the main so much easier.
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. . . and of course, set my auto-pilot into the wind!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 05/06/2009 : 18:04:00

Who needs an auto-pilot? I just steer into the wind and the Admiral hoists the sails!

But I definitely see why single-handers love their autopilots.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2009 : 17:48:35

I also have a 8hp Honda MY motor is always hard to start ,Its a pull start and usually takes 10 + pulls.. On Tuesday I tried to start it With new gas in the Tank, But it just would not start.. I then drained the bowl (Ithink) by loosening a screw that faces forward below the carbuator Just loosening it allows fuel to drain out a port on the same side. After doing this IT started Note it was the 1st attempt to start since last October

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 05/07/2009 : 20:48:21

Twiddle the pump piston by swiveling the throttle just while you're starting it. You could also use your thumb to do this. This will make it catch and keep it running.

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Response Posted - 05/11/2009 : 12:02:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 Thanks guys. I think I have a copy of the manual, I'm almost sure it's something that I'm doing wrong. I'm going to take her out again and if it happens again I'm going to get someone to look at it.

I really appreciate everyone who has taken the time to respond thus far.
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So guys, after having it fail to start again I had it looked at. Turns out a pin had fallen out of my choke. $112 dollars later and it's started on the first pull every time. The sailing and the peace of mind of knowing the motor will start to get me back to my slip is well worth the money even though they did charge the crud out of me for labor.
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Well it's back to not starting again, ruined my sailing for this weekend. Going to have the same outfit come and take a look at it.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2009 : 10:47:18

Try prig its a stabilizer and cleaner restorer all in one. Have used it in all my gasoline guzzlers with great success. I keep lawnmower gas for years and just add more prig each year it works great.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 06/05/2009 : 18:11:56

I rebuilt my carb over the winter, and now it runs great. The last time I cleaned out the carb last winter, it ran great for a few months in early summer, but then started to choke out by late August.

So, under the advice of my dock mate, after every motor sail, I disconnect the gas line and let it run until the carburetor bowl is empty, and the carb is dry.

I added the blue stuff and the pink stuff. If anything gets clogged up now, I think I'll go for an electric!

Long story short, don't let the crap sit around for any length of time.

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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 : 08:43:57

Does anyone know a good place to get a carb rebuild kit for Honda 9.9? I thought I should be able to find it with a search but lots of looking and no luck. Thanks. Bob

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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 : 09:24:57

Hi Bob,
I see what you mean. No prob with Yamaha or others but no Honda kit. It looked like [url="http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Honda/Outboard%20Engine/parts.html"]this[/url] was a reputable site, I'd go there, call their 800 number and ask why the hell they don't post (and in a conspicuous way) the most requested out board part that there is. this kind of thing really yanks my chain

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 19:52:05

I recently rebuilt my Honda BF100 9.9hp engine and ran into the same problem. After looking through the parts diagram I ordered a Manifold gasket, a O-ring kit which included a float bowl o-ring and a small o-ring for one of the mixture screws?, and main jet. I could have ordered a new float but mine seemed fine, I also ordered a new diaphragm for the fuel pump, and now the engine runs great. But as near as I can tell Honda does not offer a "rebuild kit" for the carb, there just arent enough parts that need replacement.

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Response Posted - 07/16/2009 : 05:32:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does anyone know a good place to get a carb rebuild kit for Honda 9.9? I thought I should be able to find it with a search but lots of looking and no luck. Thanks. Bob<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I emailed a online outboard parts dealer and he told me there isn't enough demand for many carb rebuild kits so no one makes an after market kit, you have to go to the dealer for them.

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KD4AO
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Response Posted - 07/16/2009 : 07:05:39

Thanks guys, It seems that the only way is to order individual parts. The biggest problem is identifying the correct carb to order parts for. Also it seems a bit of a problem determining the correct model number. The book (I found a Service Manual online) says it is on a plate at the front of the engine and the serial is stamped on the right side of the engine, but mine has the serial on the plate at the front of the engines and nothing stamped on the right and nowhere can I find the model. By serial number and general observation I was able to determine that it is probably 2004 BFP9.9D4XHSA, S/N BABJ-1300762.

The next problem is getting the engine off the boat or work on it in the water. The Stern Bracket Clamp Screws are frozen, I have not been able to move them by hand. I am trying a few applications of WD40 to see if that helps, then maybe some gentle tapping with a rubber mallet or ???. Then back the boat up to the seawall and use the "A" frame I built to lower the mast, to lift the engine off. The alternative is work on it on the boat, in the water. Kind of scary thinking about what may go deep six and how to prevent that from happening. Maybe some sort of skirt around the engine or something.

If anyone wants to offer suggestions I am most grateful. I am going to fix it, just got to work up to it. The problem with the motor is, it won't start. It has been running recently and starting ok. A small amount of gas is coming out of the carb around a small rod that is operated by the throttle and goes down into the carb. It has a rubber cap on it that has deteriorated. So there you have it. When I get it fixed I think I will sell it and get a new Tohotsu Sail Pro 6 (frustration) ha, ha.

Thanks to all

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 07/16/2009 : 08:18:02

Bob,
I have had good success using PB Blaster for loosening frozen bolts. It is available at most auto parts stores. Give the bolts multiple applications and allow a few hours for it to work. The gas coming out from around the rod sounds like you may have a stuck float which is allowing the carburetor bowl to overfill. Disassembling it and cleaning it would be the best path to follow in that case. Honda engines seem to be overly sensitive to any debris in the fuel system so poor filtering or old gas can shut one down in a heartbeat.

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Response Posted - 07/23/2009 : 14:29:42

I just lost what I had written, so rewriting but condensed...

Be careful using ether, I destroyed a motorcycle engine using it too much trying to start it. It ate the oil in the cylinder, metal on metal, piston melted and froze to cylinder, had to bore and get a new piston and rings.

Ether does wonders cleaning a carb when cleaning by soaking. Other cleaners don't work as well, even though the fancy labels would make you think so. Look for ether in staring fluid cans at the auto store, won't find it in the carb cleaner section. Had some finiky carbs on a different bike, ether did the trick.

What's this about ethanol? Is there a way to stabilize it, or just don't use it in the first place? I thought it would be good to use, since it would take care of any stray water in the tank? Any more on that?

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