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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  00:06:40  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Randy, we both have only three choices when logged in:
Show Profile, E-mail poster, and Reply With Quote. Where do you see Edit?
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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/03/2009 :  00:08:36  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Okay, I've got it now; must've done something wrong.
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frejoh
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Response Posted - 04/25/2009 :  06:26:39  Show Profile
If the table starts at the king post and comes out 24", it is as far into the cabin, if not more, than the factory table. I'm thinking about modifying the factory table by eliminating the curved edges and folding the sides in, maybe use the cut off edges to make fiddles and glue them into grooves. Anyone have thoughts on whether this could work?
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/26/2009 :  08:27:44  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Hi Fred,

Depending on how one uses the boat, the size of the cabin table can be an obstacle. If the owner leaves the original athwardship seat back at the table and uses the Vee Berth as a catch all for sail bags etc, then the stock table is not a huge issue.

But, the Vee Berth is very often used as the primary berth for a cruising couple because the aft berth (more true on the water ballast design) is so difficult to get in and out of and... on both designs, the Vee berth is much better ventilated.

When the Vee berth is used, the stock table is too large especially athwardship because its an obstacle in accessing the berth.

As you describe the stock table could be simply given two cuts to make two drop leaves adding some hinges and hardware underneath to lock the leaves up when in use. It would be a simple mod. Invert the table so as to use a power saw from the bottom to avoid splintering the laminate. Clamp a straight edge in place and guide the saw along the straight edge to make the cut. Add some white laminate to the cut edges and viola. It could even be hinged over the top with some sewing machine hinges.

However, the table still may be too large. Here are a couple of pics showing a comparison between a new and the stock table. The new table is positioned over the old to depict similar mounting placement.

One can see that a new table reduces both athwardship and fore-aft space requirement.

It really boils down to setting some design parameters and then employing them. Mine were,

<ol type="1"><li>Small footprint when folded</li><li>Adequate eating space for a couple when unfolded</li><li>Use existing mounting system so as to remain convertable to cockpit</li><li>Light weight for easy moving to cockpit</li><li>Reasonably good looks</li><li>Rounded corners when folded for safety</li><li>Fiddles when closed to secure the lap top computer</li><li>Fiddles to secure a single plate while underway</li><li>Reasonable distance when open to settees for comfort while eating</li><li>minimal obstruction to accessing the Vee berth</li><li>drink holders</li></ol id="1">






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Response Posted - 04/27/2009 :  18:48:48  Show Profile
Arlyn, those are pretty much my criteria, too, except we have four regulars on board, no laptop, and as a WK, nowhere in cockpit to move the table from below. Your picture is extremely helpful, though, as is your advice on steps to mod the table. I really think it could work.
Speakiing of the cockpit, does any one know of a smallish table which would mount to the rail at the stern, to have a surface for food prep/cooking next to or near the Magma grill?
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