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Chris Z
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Initially Posted - 07/14/2009 : 20:09:46

I have been toying with different locations for the whisker pole on the foredeck. I wanted to haave the best placement for racing when we are racing and best location for cruising when cruising. I have seen a few people who leave it attached at the mast and have it secured right below the furler. Any feedback would be great!!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/14/2009 : 20:37:35

Sometimes I will bring it up and attach it to the lifeline using the simple pear-shaped carabiners with a spring catch, one down at the front end of the line and the other behind the first stanchion. Cheap and easy. Most of the time it stays stored below on the aft quarterberth; while racing I tend to keep it in the main cabin with one end resting on the companionway step.

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 06:30:21

We attach ours to the aft baby stay, pointing forward on the side that we expect to be using it next. We stow it inside the stays so it cant flop around up there. Seems to work well.

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 06:52:33

Chris, I only recently got my boat rigged for the spinnaker and haven't even flown it yet, but for the moment I carry my pole as you describe, with one end clipped onto the mast padeye, and the other end attached to the bow cleat, inside the bow pulpit. When I tack, the jib slides over the pole with no problems. I'm thinking about carrying the pole in some other manner, however, because it's only a matter of time until the pole leaves a dirty bluish tinge on my clean, white, new genoa, from rubbing on it. I don't think it's a good, long-term way to carry the pole.

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 07:43:48

When racing the pole is stored inside the shrouds with the "sail" end inside the bow pulpit and the "mast" end just behind the last deck stanchion.
When not racing it's collapsed and stored in the cabin on two line loops attached to small hooks.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 07:45:46

I have my whisker pole attached to a slide on a track that runs up the front of the mast and a pad-eye near the bottom of the mast. To deploy the pole you release it from the Pad-eye and pull it foward while the othen end slides down the track. Stowing it is just the reverse. The pole is out of the way and securly stowed when not in use but can be deployed rapidly when needed.
PS: I also have a topping lift attached to the pole to make it easier to handle and to take some of the weight off the sail in light air.

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 08:04:52

Renzo,

Can you post some pictures of your setup?

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 09:06:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chris Z
 Renzo,

Can you post some pictures of your setup?
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This is the best I can do for now. Next time I go to the boat I'll shoot some more pics.

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 09:43:36

"but can be deployed rapidly when needed."

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Renzo your just waiting for me to replay on this, aren’t you

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 14:50:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by glen
 "but can be deployed rapidly when needed."

Renzo your just waiting for me to replay on this, aren’t you

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OK, OK, Glen, some people can deploy it more rapidly than others. And some people just need more practice. I suppose I could look around in my camera files and find a video if I have to.

Edited by - Renzo on 07/15/2009 14:52:16

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Response Posted - 07/15/2009 : 17:17:07

I installed this and I'm happy with it:
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display& Product_ID=608
Two negatives that you should know about:
First, the jib sheets will sometimes catch on the car knob during a tack. Marine tape solves the problem.
Second, the car does not lock tightly into the track when it is set in a hole. It has slipped a few times. I'm sure there's a fix, but I haven't gotten around to really working on that yet.

Edited by - windsong on 07/15/2009 17:19:33

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Response Posted - 07/16/2009 : 06:08:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by windsong
 
... the jib sheets will sometimes catch on the car knob during a tack. Marine tape solves the problem.
Second, the car does not lock tightly into the track when it is set in a hole. It has slipped a few times. I'm sure there's a fix, but I haven't gotten around to really working on that yet.
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My track system works much better now that I(Ah, unintentionally)removed the car knob. Adding a topping lift eliminates the need for the car to lock at a specific point on the track.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/27/2009 : 16:33:29

With Renzo's set-up, I would think that the locking device on the car would need to be removed in order to allow the car to go up the mast to the storage position.
Windsong, can't you flip the car over so the knob is under the ring? wouldn't that solve the jib sheet issue?

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Response Posted - 07/28/2009 : 11:11:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 
Windsong, can't you flip the car over so the knob is under the ring? wouldn't that solve the jib sheet issue?
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Hm. I hadn't thought of that. I'll be at the boat tomorrow. I'll try it, and let you know how it works.
With regards to the question about speed of deploying, you can get it winged out in less than a minute with crew. One person to steer a deep course and the other to switch the jib sheets. When I'm single-handing, that's another matter. I've been practicing it, and I still have trouble. I find it the most difficult thing I do on the boat.
BTW, there's a great article in last month's Cruising World on how to set a whisker pole. It's very step-by-step. See if you can find it.

Edited by - windsong on 07/28/2009 11:27:21

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Response Posted - 07/28/2009 : 14:29:10

When single handing, start the jybe by bringing the main over first to blanket the jib a little, then go forward and wing the jib over to the other side. Practice in very light air with the working jib first, moving up to heavier air after you are comfortable with your routine. With the working jib, you can also use a shorter pole than with the 150.

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