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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 07/29/2009 :  13:45:40  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Well, according to all the books, don't even try to race with the anchor in the bow locker and the V-Berth heavy with stuff.

My anchor is a 13 lb danforth on 50 feet of 5/16 chain and 150 feet of 1/2 nylon. Its really quite heavy, it was difficult for me to carry the whole thing.

I removed the water tank on the starboard side of the boat (port engine and port fuel locker). I put the anchor and chain in that locker. I also took all unnecessary sails home and took all the stuff out of the V Berth. The only thing up there are the cushions!

So the bow is at least 150 lbs lighter, maybe more. The bow is sitting about 2 inches above the water line now.

The question is, is this faster and will it improve pointing?

Sailing, I can really feel the weight difference - it seems the bow pops over waves much faster. Seems the boat pitches more with a faster motion.

I would say I have slightly reduced weather helm as a result of the lighter bow.

I have a Tohatsu 9.8 4 stroke engine hanging off the rear plus I am a heavy man - always seems the stern is squatting a little.


PS I feel I could still deploy the anchor in a hurry - we are requred to carry one. Putting it to starboard with a port engine seems to have reduced the port list a little.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/29/2009 :  13:57:23  Show Profile
Jim - my anchor is stowed in the head compartment midships in the space under the beginning of the V-berth. (I have a 15lb danforth, 15' of chain and 150' of 3/8" line). The spare sails are placed in the cabin over the keel and I have no cushions in the aft berth.
This seems to keep the stern up enough to cut down on the drag.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/29/2009 :  18:15:21  Show Profile
You could ask your GPS... In moderate, steady conditions, sail with the anchor where you have it and see what true course and speed you can maintain to windward. Then move the anchor and rode to the front of the v-berth (not too different from the anchor locker) and see if your course and speed change. (1) That might counteract your weight in the cockpit to keep the transom out of the water, and (2) reducing hobby-horsing (with more weight forward) might make you faster through the waves, or it might not.
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 07/29/2009 :  18:52:30  Show Profile
"move the anchor and rode to the front of the v-berth (not too different from the anchor locker)"
Dave -I don't put the anchor at the front of the V-berth but under the back - about 7' away from the anchor locker and almost 3' lower.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/29/2009 :  19:08:40  Show Profile
I get ya... I was just responding to Jim's apparent uncertainty as to whether moving the anchor amidships would make him faster (and higher). So, try all three--my point merely was the GPS knows.
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