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IndyJim
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Initially Posted - 10/18/2002 :  23:58:15  Show Profile
Hey Skippers!

I've only had my C-25 for one summer and I've loved her dearly. I have absolutely no regrets selling my ODay and buying the C-25. But, after a full season on the water, (3-4 times a week) I realized that the head sink was nothing more than a decoration. I used the galley sink alot but just don't feel that the second sink in the head is necessary in a 12 foot salon.

Has anyone removed the head sink and put in a hanging locker/storage closet or anything similar? Since I have a 15 gallon fresh water tank under one setee and an 18 gallon waste tank under the other, there isn't much storage. And the nice hanging bar behind the marine toilet is nice but kind of gets in the way when the Admiral uses the head.

I'm thinking about extending the front face of the sink cabinet up toward the window, leaving a shelf on top so the window will still provide light into the cabin. The closet will have a latching door and a bar for hanging clothes in the upper section and two drawers in the lower portion. Is there any reason this is a bad idea?

I was elated to have 2 sinks onboard when I bought her. But, if you can't take 5 small steps to the galley sink to wash your hands after you "use the facilities", you don't belong onboard! Just teasing.

So, I'll sit back now and listen to everyone's thoughts and modifications. Then I'll add it to my list of winter improvements.

Thanks for a great site for input and advice.

IndyJim
"Itza Dew Sea"
'84 SK/TR #8425


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Douglas
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Response Posted - 10/19/2002 :  01:05:48  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
The shelf idea sounds good. Drop the drawer idea as you will need the hanging space. Nix the door as you will want air circulation.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2d610b3127cce905ebc3f82810000001410" border=0>The picture shows the standard instalation of a hanging locker for the C-25 traditional.The white tube is my head pump out line. Holding tank in the bow.

Doug&Ruth
Boatless in Seattle
Tacoma Wa.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 10/19/2002 :  15:25:36  Show Profile
IndyJim:

Try this link for some different ideas --

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1494

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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BCain
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Response Posted - 10/19/2002 :  16:12:20  Show Profile
Jim, I to thought that the head sink was a waste. I removed the sink and counter, cut the cabinet front down and moved the hanging locker bar to that side. This gives me storage bahind the head, room to use the head and a hanging locker with some lower storage. This works well and seems to open up the head more.

Bruce, Wind Shadow, SK/SR
Central Florida Lakes



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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 10/20/2002 :  01:27:22  Show Profile
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Our 1981, #2459, had no sink in the head. Greatest idea since sliced bread, microwaves and autopilots.

Previous posts and pictures should do it for you.

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IndyJim
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Response Posted - 10/20/2002 :  02:48:21  Show Profile
Thanks y'all! I was afraid that I'd be scorned for thinking that two sinks were silly. Storage would be much more useful onboard my baby. Two sinks sounded pretty cool when I was shopping for a C-25. But "cool" has yeilded to "practical" in my old age.

If I move the hanging bar to the other side, I could put toiletries that I usually store under the sink behind the head and . I like it! Okay, you've talked me into it! Actually, you just re-inforced my decision!

What a great place to gain a wealth of information about my boat!
Frankly there are some threads that I scratch my head and say "what are they talking about?" (to hulls and through hulls) but I'm sure in good time my expertise will grow out of necessity! he he he

Thanks!

IndyJim
"Itza Dew Sea"
"84 SK/TR #8425


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/20/2002 :  06:38:55  Show Profile
<b>"Frankly there are some threads that I scratch my head and say "what are they talking about?" (to hulls and through hulls)..." - IndyJim</b>

Click on the link below, then select "Seacocks" for a little C25 "to-hull" education.

http://home.attbi.com/~c25sailor/projects.html

Another excellent link is this one from Douglas of his "to-hull" replacement.

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=786

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
1980 C25 #2151
SR/FK

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  17:18:51  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I too have had the urge to remove the head sink and replace it with a hanging locker. On the other hand, how will this effect the possibility of entering the my C-25 in theNationals sometime. Will this modification effect the class weight/requirement to have all stock items on board when racing?

Al Eckhart
C25T Gallivant


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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  18:14:55  Show Profile
Al, that'a a veeerrry interrrresting question! (Anyone old enough to remember "Laugh-In"??)
I think that it is something for the Rules Committee to decide (do we have one?) or the Race Chairman would probably have the final say. Personally I would not protest you for it <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> (You should see what the C22'ers do to the inside of their racing machines!)
Derek
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Canyon Lake.(Officially listed as "PHRF of the Alamo")


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  19:16:23  Show Profile
Al,

The sink and vanity in the head were extra-cost options on new C-25s. If the original owner didn't order the vanity, you would probably have either a hanging locker or just an open storage bin there. I wouldn't worry the least little bit about being allowed to race it in the Nationals if you make it into a hanging locker. I'm sure that would be consistent with the rule, and they really aren't that persnickety anyway.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/21/2002 :  21:23:01  Show Profile
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Two sinks sounded pretty cool when I was shopping for a C-25. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Jim: One consideration is that if you suspect you may move on from the C-25, it may sound "cool" to your prospective buyer, as well. In an on-line listing, it makes the boat sound bigger than it is. You might want to at least keep the components around.

I was planning to remove the head sink in favor of hanging space, but now I'm reserving judgement until I've completed the convertible main salon queen-sized berth. Since the aft occupant of that berth would have to climb over the forward occupant to get to the galley sink during the pre-dawn head calls we old folks require, I will wait until we've used the berth before I move the hanging locker project up the list.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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aggie
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Response Posted - 10/22/2002 :  14:25:49  Show Profile

I agree the double sink is a waste of space, building a storage
cabinet sounds like a great winter project.

I have a question, for the larger pieces of wood, what should
I use? Do I have to use Teak or another type of plywood would
work and look good. Could I apply "teak oil" to the wood to get the
plywood to match the other woodwork or would I need to find a matching stain?

Thanks.


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MattL
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Response Posted - 10/22/2002 :  15:18:54  Show Profile
You can get teak plywood $$$$ or marine plywood $$$$ for the project. You could also go to Home Depot, et. al., and get some fine grade plywood $$. Stain this or leave as is for a lighter look. I would use the latter with some nice maple or alder trim pieces for a nice contrast to the darker teak. I know maple and alder are not boat woods, but if finished well they should be OK.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
E.C. Rider
Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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