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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 09/07/2009 : 17:13:39

Went for a sail today and noticed the boat across the dock had received significant bow damage from hitting the dock. The boat had no spring line. I retied the lines to pull it back from the dock and called the owner.

Here is the bow. That is a hole all the way through at the bottom of the damaged section:

Here is the dock (end of the finger) and you can see the fiberglass remnants:

I don't think I've seen this boat go out all season. It is a C25. Sad.

We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 09/07/2009 : 18:07:40

Good for you for retying their lines, was there a wind storm, or was that damage just over a long period of time?

Generally the last thing I do before leaving SL is to lean into it, pushing it to the extents of the available travel, just to make sure it can't hit anything.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 09/07/2009 : 19:35:14

We've had a few stormy days this week with winds from the south. Winds are typically from the north so this boat had been OK until the last few days. We leave our lines attached to the dock so when we tie up we know that the boat can't hit anywhere.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 06:43:22

Terrible!

But It reinforces my conviction that more boats are damaged by improper storage,(in or out of the water)and insufficient maintenance, than by hard use at sea.

PS: Good Karma to you for caring enough to limit the damage

Edited by - Renzo on 09/08/2009 06:44:08

TractorJohn
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 14:16:36

Improper mooring no doubt resulted in this damage, but it makes you wonder what caused such heavy and prolonged waves. No breakwater? open to the North Pacific? Where I'm moored (Tomahawk Bay) if a passing boat causes damage they are liable.
TJ

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 14:55:16

Randy, you apparently saw the damage on Monday and took prompt action to prevent further damage. Nevertheless, that means that not a single good samaritan saw or heard the damage throughout the holiday weekend, or was considerate enough to adjust the boat's lines. Wherever I have sailed, fellow sailors have always looked after each others' boats and adjusted their docklines when necessary to prevent damage. You have to wonder how sailors could walk past another person's boat and ignore that.

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TractorJohn
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 15:28:15

Before anyone shoots at me, I wasn't suggesting anything but weather as Nautiduck says caused the rough water. I was just thinking out loud.
tj

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 16:03:47

OUCH...you need to consider, if the boat has not been out all season, what ill has befallen the owner - and this is just another bit of joy...Randy, good on you for taking action!!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 09/08/2009 : 18:13:12

John, this is a lake. When the wind pipes up, though, the water does get good wave action and the floating docks get to rocking too. A spring line is simply a must in any situation.

Steve, we had three days of storms and rain leading up to Labor Day so it may be that people weren't out there to see what was happening. This spring I was out at the lake one day when the winds were howling. Several club members were walking the docks and adjusting lines on boats to make sure they were OK. I sure hope that no one saw this happening and ignored it.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 09/09/2009 : 08:10:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 John, this is a lake. When the wind pipes up, though, the water does get good wave action and the floating docks get to rocking too. A spring line is simply a must in any situation.

Steve, we had three days of storms and rain leading up to Labor Day so it may be that people weren't out there to see what was happening. This spring I was out at the lake one day when the winds were howling. Several club members were walking the docks and adjusting lines on boats to make sure they were OK. I sure hope that no one saw this happening and ignored it.
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On my dock I have all sorts of boats that have occasional problems with their hydro hoists. I'll come out and either the stern or the bow will be in the water. We always try to resolve the issue, or failing that contact the owner.

As a sailboat owner, I just don't think you can walk by a boat that needs help without losing a tiny bit of your soul. We all look after each other on our docks.

On the other hand, we have a J-29 that is tied up on the end of the dock. It looks like he just pulled up, released the main halyard, tied up and walked away. Part of the main sail was actually hanging in the water. Some friends and I tied up the main during an incoming storm. The next week, we saw the boat in the same state. We tied up the main again. By the third time, we realized that this guy just didn't care so we stopped maintaining his boat.

Every time I pass that boat on my way out it makes me cringe.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 09/10/2009 : 06:33:54

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder if you could invoke salvage rights?

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 09/10/2009 : 08:58:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder if you could invoke salvage rights?

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I wish, she's a nice boat....for now.

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