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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/05/2010 : 18:23:49

The East Bridgeport flag. (No blow-boats in E. Bridgeport--just the usable parts of some.)

That yellow one looks like another (maybe larger) Catalac--the boat that started this thread. Two nominations should seal the deal!

...although Peter's 55-footer has to be a contender. With that bent mast that far forward, I'm thinking she must have been a schooner, with the main-mast aft. Where do I find the listing??

Edit: I figured out that's a Samson Seabreeze 55, with a ferro-cement hull. I think the "swept back mast" is a tree in the background. The mainmast of the ketch rig goes just forward of the cabin windshield. Here's what she's supposed to look like...

Too bad.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/05/2010 : 19:22:18

I said "modified", but I really meant "hatchet job". I found their version of the "pop-top" dodger gizmo ingenious. I counted four fishing poles and the boat was running at about 1 kt: maybe they had few a "brick downriggers", since they were in about 30 ft of water and probably trolling. Must say they were barely legal, as the boat had a current CT registration.

The yellow boat has been knocking around these parts for at least 5 years, probably a lot more. He parks it at the end of an established mooring field, but he doesn't have an official mooring. Local authorities apparently look the other way (his boat is positioned opposite the USCG Aux station) and two winters ago he spent the season on some tidal flats, while last winter a local commercial wharf let him stay there.

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Response Posted - 10/06/2010 : 18:48:16

A few more:

This one is sort of unusual

..............................................you can almost see why they built it.

What a sleek design

..............................................and the curtains all match

This one is simply incomprehensible!

.............................................where do you sit?

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 10/06/2010 : 19:19:37

"A rose by any other name . . . . "

Not!

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/06/2010 : 19:45:54

Bruce--I missed those in my last stop at Brewer's Stratford... Where did you find these things? Is this condo-izing of sailboats a Stratford thing?

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Response Posted - 10/06/2010 : 20:14:47

'Fraid not, it's amazing the kind of crap you can find on the 'net.

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Response Posted - 10/12/2010 : 13:29:57

How about actual production boats....I've seen more than one Buccaneer (no offense to any owners)that seemed like the aesthetics left something to be desired. Might be a fabulous interior....This one is for sale on Yachtworld.com

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/12/2010 : 14:00:29

Nat Herreshoff and Olin Stephens are doing goose-wing gybes in their graves!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 11/10/2010 : 13:31:23

Ugly to me...

Nimble 26, 1993, Woodbine, Georgia, $19,500, Price reduced 11/9/10 to $18,525

http://sailingtexas.com/201009/snimble26102.html

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/10/2010 : 13:40:46

If I was single and a few years younger, I might like to do the Great Circle Route in something like that. Down the Chicago River,then the Mississippi to the Gulf, around Florida and back up the east coast via the ICW, up the Hudson and back to the Great Lakes.

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Response Posted - 11/10/2010 : 20:08:36

I always thought the Nimble Pilot House model to be short on aesthetics, but very practical for a purpose like John's.

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Response Posted - 11/10/2010 : 21:21:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 I always thought the Nimble Pilot House model to be short on aesthetics, but very practical for a purpose like John's.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">People who covet Fountains, Donzis, Azimuts, etc., probably think my Sarge is "short on aesthetics". Some sailors might, too, although I get many nice waves from sailboats around Mystic.

Many of these "un-aesthetic" vessels are exactly what their owners want. Whether they can sell them or not is a whole other issue about which they might be completely unconcerned. Meanwhile, you can think of them (or me) as making the rest of you look good!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 08:13:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 If I was single and a few years younger, I might like to do the Great Circle Route in something like that. Down the Chicago River,then the Mississippi to the Gulf, around Florida and back up the east coast via the ICW, up the Hudson and back to the Great Lakes.
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John, we've often thought that doing the Great Circle on a small trawler would be a great trip. Maybe some day...

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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 10:05:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 I always thought the Nimble Pilot House model to be short on aesthetics, but very practical for a purpose like John's.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">People who covet Fountains, Donzis, Azimuts, etc., probably think my Sarge is "short on aesthetics". Some sailors might, too, although I get many nice waves from sailboats around Mystic.

Many of these "un-aesthetic" vessels are exactly what their owners want. Whether they can sell them or not is a whole other issue about which they might be completely unconcerned. Meanwhile, you can think of them (or me) as making the rest of you look good!

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For the record, I think Sarge is a good looking boat. I'm not a big fan of motor sailors or sailboats with huge pilot houses.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 13:22:42

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piseas
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 13:59:48

RD, you win the award, in my book. Funny how clean the stainless is!
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OJ
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 14:21:04

How long ya reckon that was under water to look like that?

How apropo the name is!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 14:56:20

RD wins!! What is the back story here?

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 15:58:50

Not so much ugly as sad. I wonder which Hurrican got it?

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 16:47:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 Not so much ugly as sad...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">After all, it's a Catalina (C-27).

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 11/11/2010 : 20:16:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 Ugly to me...

Nimble 26, 1993, Woodbine, Georgia, $19,500, Price reduced 11/9/10 to $18,525

http://sailingtexas.com/201009/snimble26102.html

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">What about this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Capital-Gulf-Pilot-House-27-Used-Sailboat-MD-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c170d2f80QQitemZ120645824384QQptZSailboats

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 11/12/2010 : 10:03:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 Not so much ugly as sad...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">After all, it's a Catalina (C-27).
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Did they change the forward hatch?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What about this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1980-Capital-Gulf-Pilot-House-27-Used-Sailboat-MD-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem1c170d2f80QQitemZ120645824384QQptZSailboats
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Not so bad actually, looks more like a sailboat.

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 11/12/2010 : 10:05:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 RD wins!! What is the back story here?
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Sorry, no time to write an explanation yesterday. The pics were taken May 22 this year. The boat was underwater when I arrived at the marina March 25. Its mast was sticking up vertical at that time, but tilted over a couple weeks later. So I don't think it had been underwater for that long or the mast would have tilted over sooner. Based on the patch on the bow I would guess it was allowed to sit in the slip unattended for too long, the lines loosened or chafed through, and the dock wore away a hole in the bow. On Feb 10-11 we had 3' of snow, so that probably pushed the boat down far enough that the hole fell below the waterline, and the rest is history.

Others in the marina were very upset that this had happened. Apparently the boat had been well cared for years ago, but the owner fell hopelessly behind in rent payments and disappeared for a couple of years. They said the marina should have seized it earlier when it could have sold/given to a caring, rent-paying owner.

My main frustration is over the chrome cowl vents on the stern. They looked to be a perfect match for my missing transom cowl vent, so I could have replaced it on the existing bracket. I called to inquire about whether I could take it, and the guy said "it's too late. It's already chopped up in the dumpster." I actually went over and looked in the dumpster, but that part of the boat was buried too deep. I should have just taken it as soon as the boat was floated, but I did not know they were just going to throw out (almost) everything.

I have not been able to find an exact replacement for my transom cowl vent since, so I'll have to replace the bracket. This will be harder than it should because the existing bottom screw holes are 3 1/4" apart, but all the brackets I've found have the screws 3" apart. It will be really tough to get clean holes only 1/8" from the previous holes.

The demo guys did save the keel - I found a guy on Sailnet who actually had salvaged a keel-less C27 in the Gulf, and he drove all the way to PA to get this one - and the mast/boom (a friend wanted it but they were asking too much).

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Response Posted - 11/30/2010 : 19:36:12

If I were asked to vote, I couldn't. Too many qualify as ug-leeeeee.

Of the boats I've personally seen, and that are production boats, the MacGregor 26, especially with 50 horses on the transome that use the horses when they could sail, now in my humble opinion, that's ugly.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 11/30/2010 : 20:27:35

Rick, I've got a pair of cowl vents from an older C-22. If you are interested, email me at: pilcherd - at - bellsouth - dot - net.
They are in good condition. Requires a deck hole 2 7/8 - 3" and the cowl is about 2 1/2" high at the center. Two screw holes in front and one in the rear. Cowls are chrome and clean with some discoloration along the base, probably due to caulk. Cowls have a molded crease down the top centerline, so they are not completely smooth across the top of the cowl.

Edit: The screw holes are 2 1/8" apart.

Edited by - dmpilc on 12/01/2010 06:40:51

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