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Downbucket
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Initially Posted - 03/18/2010 :  19:07:23  Show Profile
Hi:

Wow! The weather here in Portland, Maine has been unusually warm. I'm hoping for an early launch this year. Need to replace some line and have 3 questions.

1. What is the diameter and length of the main halyard line on a standard rig?

2. What is the diameter and length of the halyard line for the headsail (furling)?

3. I'm planning on using Sta-Set X? Comments?

Thanks.

Will
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triley
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Response Posted - 03/18/2010 :  19:25:35  Show Profile
For the main, 71 to 72 ft of halyard, 5/16 line 3000 Lbs tensile, and A Wichard shackle 41833.Sta Set X is fine, tensile strength 4400 lbs. Don't know about the self furling headsail.

Tom
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/18/2010 :  19:37:44  Show Profile
75 ft is plenty for my Harken roller on a tall rig. I use Vectran 1/4" for the main and 5/16" for the genoa, but Stayset X is fine and cheaper.

edit: Vectran was on sale and really marked down when I went with all rope, so I thought it was a good time to try the high tech stuff. It is actually 6mm and 8mm.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/18/2010 :  20:17:07  Show Profile
My furler relied on tension from the halyard, which remained cleated all season. It was important to hold the drum precisely in place. I bought Krypton Spectra (from CD) to prevent stretch over that period, which it did. For the main, which is hoisted and doused every day, stretch isn't as much of an issue, so Sta-Set X is probably adequate.

Are you leading your main halyard back to the cockpit? I don't know whether the measurements above take that into account.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/18/2010 :  20:57:50  Show Profile
Important point! Mine are to the cockpit and my main is about 70 ft. Like Dave B, my jib halyard stays untouched all season, so its kind of silly to run it to the cockpit, but the hardware was there.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/19/2010 :  18:55:25  Show Profile
Sta-Set X is a good choice. It's what I use. For the main halyard, 55 ft to go up and down the mast, 10 ft. to reach back to the cockpit, and another 5 ft to tail, so 70 ft should be fine. I would add another 10 ft for the genoa halyard, depending on what furler you have. Some have their own internal halyard.
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triley
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Response Posted - 03/19/2010 :  19:09:16  Show Profile
Hey, Downbucket. Do you ever get down to the Kennebunk River? If you do in early August I can get you a free slip for a night (or nearly free).

Tom
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/20/2010 :  09:28:03  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Stayset x is stiff and won't coil. I have that on my main halyard. VPC 8 mm is vectran with a core. It's less stretch than the stayset, softer, coils easy, and is CHEAPER. I have that on my jib halyard. Note 8mm = 5/16 more or less. Go with the VPC 8mm, $0.85/ft at West marine.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 03/20/2010 :  09:31:13  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Oh and don't bother getting upsold on getting eyes spliced in the ends. I just tie a bowline. I use wichard shackles (expensive).

Has not failed in 3 years, 170 days per year sailing, 2000 miles/year. If the rope gets a little worn where the sheaves run at the top of the mast (or at the clutches which is more likely), untie the bowline, cut off 12 inches, and retie. Get your halyard about 3 feet longer for this reason.
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Downbucket
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Response Posted - 03/20/2010 :  16:30:45  Show Profile
Thanks everyone. Will probably go with Sta-Set X unless I catch a sale on VPC.

Tom, thanks for the offer. Don't usually sail South though.

Will
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/21/2010 :  05:54:42  Show Profile
Check out Milwaukee Rigging on Ebay. Usually has very good prices and the guy is pleasant to work with.
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