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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 07/15/2010 :  17:44:11  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Went for a test ride in Tesla Roadster Sport today.

I stated to talk to the driver about the technology being the most interest to me.

Then he put his foot down! Hard!

<b>WOW</b>

Only problem I see is that it won't tow my boat!

Paul
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/15/2010 :  17:58:24  Show Profile
I was watching Top Gear on BBC America a while ago and they gave it rave reviews right up until it ran out of juice in pretty short order. I seem to recall it was around 100 or so miles but they were driving it pretty hard on their test track. If I recall, thir complaint was that it takes an extraordinarily long time to recharge the batteries. I think I remember them saying something like 16 hours to completely recharge. I wonder if they've worked that out.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/15/2010 :  18:53:41  Show Profile
I heard on the radio today talking about the Volt and other electric cars that to replace a battery pack with a 100 mile range would cost about $33K and that the ones in the current generation of electric/hybrid cars will coat about $13K. Still too rich for my taste.
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/15/2010 :  19:46:25  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
The Tesla has a range of 240+miles, overnight full charge from flat (never happens) on regular household 110v.

My Son drives a Zen Electric Car NEV (Neighborhood Electric Vehicle) and the Electric cost is less than $30 a month on over 1200 miles.

The Tesla recharges from flat to full for less than $5.00. Recharge options include a 240V fast charger. Apparently Buyers in Florida get a $2,000 rebate on that device.

The specs on the vehicle indicate that you won't tow with it, but you will enjoy every minute behind the wheel.

Electric Vehicles require an adjustment in driving lifestyle. No more waiting at the pump, car is full every morning.

If I had the money! (Hey, if 50,000 of you sign up for my business directory, then I can afford one! )

Paul
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 07/15/2010 :  19:55:26  Show Profile
I did not know they were actively selling them -- no dealers that I know of up north -- and yes, it would be fun to at least take a test drive . . .
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piseas
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Response Posted - 07/16/2010 :  06:30:28  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by britinusa</i>
<br />Went for a test ride in Tesla Roadster Sport today.
<b>WOW</b>
Only problem I see is that it won't tow my boat!
Paul
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Paul if you got the $101,500 + for that car, I dont see a problem.
Steve
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/16/2010 :  07:07:23  Show Profile
[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AUurBnLbJw"]Top Gear also reviewed the Hydrogen powered electric Honda Clarity [/url] that is (or was when the show aired) available in California. They loved it, too. I think that's probably, as they said on the show, the car of the future.

I wonder about the ability to store Hydrogen on board to power an electric boat motor. Hmmmmmmm.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/17/2010 :  13:47:57  Show Profile
I believe the Chevy Volt - with an onboard gas engine that drives a generator - is going to be hot item. No 100 mile limit which is a deal breaker for a lot of drivers.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 07/17/2010 :  14:59:38  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I wonder about the ability to store Hydrogen on board to power an electric boat motor. Hmmmmmmm.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's one of big problems to solve. Because hydrogen atoms are so small (lowest atomic weight on the periodic table), they tend to diffuse through just about any containment medium. I invested in a company a while back that looked to have solid solution, but they never made it to market. Whoever solves that problem will be sitting on a gold mine.
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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 07/18/2010 :  19:27:16  Show Profile
Think Eestor and be optimistic.
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Renzo
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Response Posted - 07/19/2010 :  06:11:28  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by delliottg</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I wonder about the ability to store Hydrogen on board to power an electric boat motor. Hmmmmmmm.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's one of big problems to solve. Because hydrogen atoms are so small (lowest atomic weight on the periodic table), they tend to diffuse through just about any containment medium. I invested in a company a while back that looked to have solid solution, but they never made it to market. Whoever solves that problem will be sitting on a gold mine.
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The real problem, as I understand it, is to create large quantities of Hydrogen,cost effectively,in the first place. If you could do that you could just create hydrogen as you need it from the water your sailing in. Oh, Wait! If you are sailing you don't need Hydrogen, Gasoline or Electricity. Maybe it would be better if he alternative energy advocates considered producing sail assisted cars
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/19/2010 :  14:20:49  Show Profile
The other problem with hydrogen is the low power yield per pound which compounded with low density gives a very low power yield per cubic foot. Gasoline has lots of carbon, diesel has more, which gives a higher power yield and higher density. Ethanol has 2 carbons and 5 hydrogens (plus an OH group) and my milage drops 25 - 30 percent when I use E-85 with its much lower carbon to hydrogen ratio. I also suspect the the claimed range of electrics, whether battery or fuel cell, will prove to be vastly overstated when used in the real world.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/19/2010 :  14:56:34  Show Profile
Key elements that are used to manufacture LI batteries are (to date) only found in countries that are wise to our history of exploiting other natural resources in other countries . . .
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MattL
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Response Posted - 07/19/2010 :  21:17:59  Show Profile
Took my son to the Dr. in Stanford last month. Saw one parked by all the fancy restaurants. Casey fell in love with it. My self I did that the first time I saw them advertized a couple of years ago. On our last appt. we did see two Ferrari's, one parked the other passed us on 280.
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