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OJ
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Initially Posted - 10/07/2010 :  18:13:30  Show Profile
Yikes, I guess one thing I don't care for about the furler is the furler line running back to the cockpit.

I just order Schaefer's outside lead furling block for the stanchions.

http://www.outerbanksoutfitters.com/product/MP80824905.htm

What do you use to cleat and stow your furler line?
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 10/07/2010 :  19:22:18  Show Profile
we have a cleat on the outside of the coaming that the furling blocks feed towards...after cleating, the dead end gets coiled and stored in the coaming compartment...real easy
Edited by - jerlim on 10/07/2010 19:24:05
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/07/2010 :  19:23:24  Show Profile
I put a little cam cleat with a fairlead on top on the coaming forward of the winch. When the sail was furled, the coiled line could lie in the coaming compartment. I liked having the line captured there (with a stopper-knot)--we'll see if "Voyager" Bruce agrees with that setup.
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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 10/07/2010 :  20:41:16  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I have cleats on both the port and starboard sides aft of the winches. When sail is furled, I either leave it coiled on the seat cushion or I tuck it into the coaming.

When I come back to my marina, I take note of the wind direction. It is rare the wind is strong enough or from the direction where the boat will drift away from the finger slip but if it is from that direction, I coil my furler line and leave enough slack so i can rest it near the winch in the cockpit on the finger slip side. When I leave the boat to tie up, the furling line is then in a convenient position to use as my safety to bring the boat back over to the finger slip side. This I rarely have to do and so most times, I just leave the furler line coiled on the port side seat cushion and then when I am tied up and everything put away, i use the furling line to steady the tiller arm. The furling line is always cleated on my port side and I then take the line and wrap it around 2-3 times on the tiller cover at the end of the tiller and then cleat it on the starboard side. This way, the tiller is kept from swinging.
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  06:09:58  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Like Dave, I use a cam cleat with fairlead just forward of the primary winch. The line is coiled and stowed in the coaming box.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  06:43:16  Show Profile
I think it makes sense to keep the lines coiled and hanging from the lifelines when not in use. That allows them to dry completely.
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  07:06:37  Show Profile
I added this gadget for the furling line





Makes reefing/cleating very simple. I typically don't cleat the line while sailing. I do cleat the line at the dock for safety reasons.
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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  08:33:53  Show Profile  Visit Chris Z's Homepage
I have a sock that covers my jib at the dock when furled. I am in a very protected bay with very little wind. My brother commented that he has a safety pin that is placed in the actual furler in case the furler line becomes un-cleated or loose for any reason. He said that one boat at his marina had their's come unfurled and was left for almost a week beating at the dock. The sail was ruined. With my sock this is not an issue; I wondered is anyone else uses a sock or pins the furler.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  10:55:30  Show Profile
My new Harken furler has a place for a pin. I haven't installed the furler yet so I can't say how well it works. I'd like to know how well it works if you decide to try it.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  15:34:55  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Davy J</i>
<br />I added this gadget for the furling line...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Hard to see, but that looks like a swivel-cam cleat for a small boat mainsheet--apparenly attached to the base of the sternrail. (Not a bad idea...) The key part is the cam cleat with the fair-lead on top to keep the line in place when not cleated.<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I typically don't cleat the line while sailing. I do cleat the line at the dock for safety reasons.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...except, I presume, when reefing the genny (if you do that.) That's what I liked about my cam cleat rather than the horn cleat installed by my PO for the furling line--for a quick yank to roll up part of the genny in a blow.
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  17:15:26  Show Profile
we take a 3' length of 3/8" line and take a few wraps around the genny and tie 'er up snug...basically it's a rolling hitch...should the sheets or furling line ever come loose while we are away, the genny is going to stay fast to the furler.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  18:17:09  Show Profile
The furler setup that Dave installed on <i>Passage</i> is ideal! I replaced the furler line with non-stretch 3/16" line since the old line had deteriorated.

The cam-cleat works perfectly, it holds the entire load when adjusting the headsail in and out. The line is lead through a series of blocks on the stanchion bases.

There is also a small cleat in line with the cam-cleat. When inclement weather threatens, I use the standard cleat and wrap a line around the furled sail. When the sail is furled, the furling line can get away from you and lie on the floor. I generally wrap it loosely and stuff it in the coaming. I cut the line so that when the sail is fully extended, there's about 2-3 feet of line leftover.

There is no way I could single hand without the furler.
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 10/08/2010 :  18:33:10  Show Profile
This is a ratchet block that runs free in both directions unless it is under tension, then it ratchets a single direction. It was a wonderful block, and nothing cleats like a horn cleat. I was never concerned in a blow.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/09/2010 :  04:34:30  Show Profile
Stanchion cleat.
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 10/09/2010 :  07:11:49  Show Profile
It is nice to se picts of North Star, she is always beautiful.
I used a lance cleat for a while and it worked well but I ended up opting for the security of the horn cleat.
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Jay Schkloven
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Response Posted - 10/09/2010 :  08:16:20  Show Profile
I have the furling line run on the outside of the stanchions through small eye blocks and have placed a small cleat on the coaming. I tie the furled sail with a sail tie even though I have the furling line secured at the cleat. That way it cannot unfurl.
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