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Davy J
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Initially Posted - 10/26/2010 : 13:22:28

I know many of you are hauling your boats and preparing for winter, but here in Florida, this is prime sailing season. Here is some video we shot last Friday night. The video is about 8 minutes long.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c6LhP6Rgjc

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piseas
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Response Posted - 10/26/2010 : 15:02:45

While its not prime sailing here in SoCal, boat is still in the water all year long!

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 10/26/2010 : 16:36:34

Pearl has been on the hard for one week, and I'm already itching for our trip south in January. Get these pesky holidays out of the way and we'll be in the Florida sun.

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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 02:53:12

Was out both Fri and Sat night, great sailing, sunsets, and moon both nights. FL fall (if you can call mid to upper 80's fall weather) sailing is worth an E ticket.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 03:51:29

Thank you that made my morning..

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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 05:49:31

We're heading out Friday at Dawn to Biscayne Bay... anybody same place same time?

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 06:40:37

As long as the rest of you Fl's are chiming in

I actually haven't been out for a couple weeks but the weather's great, high of 90 today, nice east wind last time I looked! Maybe Saturday!

Oh and for you guys who are hauling, we get the whole year but you guys get stuff done! (repairs, upgrades, etc.) There's something to be said for that.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 06:45:01

Yeah the sailing has been awesome this fall. here's a brief clip from last Sunday on my friend's C-27. The storm that you see in the back ground eventually spawned three twisters. We were heading in.

http://www.facebook.com/powers.peter?v=app_2392950137#!/video/video.php?v=449974409015

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Response Posted - 10/27/2010 : 07:08:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Oh and for you guys who are hauling, we get the whole year but you guys get stuff done! (repairs, upgrades, etc.) There's something to be said for that.
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This is the time of year that I keep reminding myself that the last time Toronto had to brace for a Hurricane was in 1954 - and it was only a Category 1, barely bigger than a tropical storm.

Oh, and you guys don't get to enjoy a weekend of snowshoeing in Algonquin park when the pines are laden with fresh snow and the silence is complete.

So yeah - enjoy your extended sailing season, and I'll enjoy having seasons and diversions that make spring launch and the anticipation of summer all the sweeter.

And when I get sick of winter, I'll come down for a weekend and go sailing with you.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 10/28/2010 : 19:06:53

As I, regrettably, rapidly approach retirement age I keep asking myself where should I look -- where can I live cost effectively while still enjoying sailing but not living in an area where weather is too extreme (read tornados and annual hurricanes) tomorrow I head off to visit my parents in the Tampa FL area, which is beginning to look really nice . . . . Have others gone through this and where does this August group suggest???

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Response Posted - 10/28/2010 : 19:48:45

Having lived on the Texas coast for over 27 years now I can vouch for the torn feelings about dealing with extreme weather and the opportunities for extended sailing seasons. Where else in the US could I go sailing right now with temperatures still in the 90s this time of year? On the other hand I am always concerned that I could lose another boat (lost four during hurricane Ike two years ago) due to severe weather conditions.

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Response Posted - 10/28/2010 : 21:04:43

I stayed in OH. and sail Erie in the summer (no sharks, alligators, or hurricanes) and head south after the holidays for winter (ice is in a glass and no snow). I really think that Mi. would be better in the summer, but this works for me. To many friends for to many decades to totally uproot.

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TCurran
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 02:54:13

Peter, I pretty much grew up in the Tampa area (Redington Beach) but it's gotten too crowded, especially the boat traffic in the ICW on the Gulf side. I prefer the east coast now, less crowded, less traffic, etc, but still great sailing on the Banana and Indian Rivers. There are days I sail on the Banana River I don't see more than two boats the whole time out there.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 07:15:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">As I, regrettably, rapidly approach retirement age I keep asking myself where should I look <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

In my opinion, the Tampa Bay region is about as safe as it gets in Florida in regards to hurricanes. I’ve lived here since 1996 and rode out Charlie (we had to evacuate, but it never made it to our location), Francis, and Jeanne. Those all came through in 2005. We watched Wilma very closely in 2006 but it stayed south of us and I think we were actually out on the water that weekend. A hurricane has to get in to the Gulf of Mexico and then make a hard right to hit the area directly. Most do not, they end up in the panhandle or off to the Texas coast. Also, when a hurricane hit’s the east coast and moves across the state, as Francis and Jeanne did, they are much weaker. They can still cause damage but not as severe as a direct landfall. I am sure we will get hit sometime, but the chances seem less (IMO) than other parts of the state.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 07:29:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I pretty much grew up in the Tampa area (Redington Beach) but it's gotten too crowded, especially the boat traffic in the ICW on the Gulf side.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Tom is right about the ICW traffic, but most of that traffic is on the weekends. I live on the east coast of Tampa Bay, we do not have any where near the traffic as the ICW does. However, there are many more things too do and see by boat on the ICW from Clearwater down to Fort Myers than most other parts of the state. So it’s a trade-off.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 09:48:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bigelowp
 As I, regrettably, rapidly approach retirement age I keep asking myself where should I look -- where can I live cost effectively while still enjoying sailing but not living in an area where weather is too extreme (read tornados and annual hurricanes) tomorrow I head off to visit my parents in the Tampa FL area, which is beginning to look really nice . . . . Have others gone through this and where does this August group suggest???
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We can get severe weather in the Dallas area but it's never directly hit any of the marinas or boats on the lake as far as I know. The system in the video I took popped up, we tracked it on Doppler and had plenty of time to head in. As it was the twisters were way to the south and east of us, it didn't even rain. We have great sailing pretty much year round on lake Ray Hubbard. In Texas, it can be 30 degrees one day and then 85 the next, even in the middle of December. My friend and I are kind of fanatics, I do remember scraping snow off his boat and going out last year. By the middle of the day it was 65 degrees. (We rarely get snow)

I don't have to worry about tides or hurricanes or even strong currents and it might drop below freezing 10 to 15 times during the year so there's no chance for the lake to freeze over. The lake is auto leveled by other area lakes so I don't have to worry about being left high and dry either.

lake Ray Hubbard is one of the best for sailing in North Texas, with a long fetch and sail up destinations which include restaurants, movie theaters etc. as well as some nice coves. There are four marinas on the sailing side of the lake, 3 of which have races all the time. The only time I ever pull out is to do a bottom job. My 27 foot slip, with power and water on a floating dock with a marina complete with bathrooms with showers, a nice pool, gated security, store and night club is $160 a month. I can get 10% off that if prepaid for a year.

last thing to consider is real estate prices, homes are incredibly inexpensive down here.

You would totally miss all the gunk holing and exploring you can do in LIS. If you're in it for the sailing and not so much the destination, inland lake sailing is something to consider.

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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 10:40:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">

We can get severe weather in the Dallas area but it's never directly hit any of the marinas or boats on the lake as far as I know. The system in the video I took popped up, we tracked it on Doppler and had plenty of time to head in. As it was the twisters were way to the south and east of us, it didn't even rain. We have great sailing pretty much year round on lake Ray Hubbard. In Texas, it can be 30 degrees one day and then 85 the next, even in the middle of December. My friend and I are kind of fanatics, I do remember scraping snow off his boat and going out last year. By the middle of the day it was 65 degrees. (We rarely get snow)

I don't have to worry about tides or hurricanes or even strong currents and it might drop below freezing 10 to 15 times during the year so there's no chance for the lake to freeze over. The lake is auto leveled by other area lakes so I don't have to worry about being left high and dry either.

lake Ray Hubbard is one of the best for sailing in North Texas, with a long fetch and sail up destinations which include restaurants, movie theaters etc. as well as some nice coves. There are four marinas on the sailing side of the lake, 3 of which have races all the time. The only time I ever pull out is to do a bottom job. My 27 foot slip, with power and water on a floating dock with a marina complete with bathrooms with showers, a nice pool, gated security, store and night club is $160 a month. I can get 10% off that if prepaid for a year.

last thing to consider is real estate prices, homes are incredibly inexpensive down here.

You would totally miss all the gunk holing and exploring you can do in LIS. If you're in it for the sailing and not so much the destination, inland lake sailing is something to consider.

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Can you sail under I30 and Hwy 66? bridges over the middle of the lake?

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 12:58:53

Well if you can handle clouds and rain for half the year then the Puget Sound and San Juan islands of Washington offer year 'round sailing. I prefer the more moderate climate like the PNW than hot and sunny. Call me crazy!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 13:29:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by skrenz
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">

We can get severe weather in the Dallas area but it's never directly hit any of the marinas or boats on the lake as far as I know. The system in the video I took popped up, we tracked it on Doppler and had plenty of time to head in. As it was the twisters were way to the south and east of us, it didn't even rain. We have great sailing pretty much year round on lake Ray Hubbard. In Texas, it can be 30 degrees one day and then 85 the next, even in the middle of December. My friend and I are kind of fanatics, I do remember scraping snow off his boat and going out last year. By the middle of the day it was 65 degrees. (We rarely get snow)

I don't have to worry about tides or hurricanes or even strong currents and it might drop below freezing 10 to 15 times during the year so there's no chance for the lake to freeze over. The lake is auto leveled by other area lakes so I don't have to worry about being left high and dry either.

lake Ray Hubbard is one of the best for sailing in North Texas, with a long fetch and sail up destinations which include restaurants, movie theaters etc. as well as some nice coves. There are four marinas on the sailing side of the lake, 3 of which have races all the time. The only time I ever pull out is to do a bottom job. My 27 foot slip, with power and water on a floating dock with a marina complete with bathrooms with showers, a nice pool, gated security, store and night club is $160 a month. I can get 10% off that if prepaid for a year.

last thing to consider is real estate prices, homes are incredibly inexpensive down here.

You would totally miss all the gunk holing and exploring you can do in LIS. If you're in it for the sailing and not so much the destination, inland lake sailing is something to consider.

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Can you sail under I30 and Hwy 66? bridges over the middle of the lake?
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No we are stuck to the south side of the bridge. It's about 4 miles from the I-30 bridge to the dam on the south side of the lake.

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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 15:14:35

I've traveled the US, Canada, Europe and elsewhere since the late 80s and my favorite places are the San Francisco bay area (although Mark Twain once quipped: the coldest winter I ever knew was summer in San Francisco) even in winter, Santa Monica to Santa Luis Obispo, and the OC down to Dana Point. I love San Diego, but in the past 20 years, the area has become very crowded.

The sailing is good in the Pacific, there are a few very beautiful places to go (Catalina Islands, Channel Islands, Newport Bay, ...) as well as the American River delta area up north. They rarely have hurricanes and the main natural disasters are the occasional earthquake and wildfire.

So why do I stay on the East Coast? Family, friends and work is here (however I could work anywhere), and I'd need a huge pay raise to buy anything more than a shack in CA! But all in all, that's where I should be . . .

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 10/29/2010 : 19:40:56

All good comments and perspective . . . . and appreciated!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 11/02/2010 : 12:18:40

Incredible, sailing on Halloween Day.

Cold front moved in this morning though, rainy and cold outside.

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Response Posted - 11/02/2010 : 15:58:07

Peter B... My late wife and I were looking hard at the eastern shore of the Chesapeake--around Easton, Oxford and St. Michaels. Still four seasons, but sailing starts a month earlier and goes a month later than in CT. July-Sept. is also a little steamier and buggier, but it feels like you've stepped back 70 years, and Annapolis and DC are right at hand. I also liked Chestertown a little further north--home of Washington College and a retirement community called Heron Point (for the later years). Since losing her, I decided on eastern CT, but I could still end up in Chestertown before it's all over... (As you know, somebody else is a factor in the equation now.)

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 11/02/2010 16:01:54

JohnP
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Response Posted - 11/02/2010 : 16:16:29

Edited by - JohnP on 11/02/2010 16:23:23

jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 11/04/2010 : 08:59:41

Isn't sailing offshore in the Gulf of Mexico typically a whole lot tamer than sailing offshore on the Atlantic coast ? I would choose a Gulf location over an Atlantic location even if I had a 30+ footer.

As for hurricanes a given spot on the Florida coast will suffer severe hurricane damage about once every 30 years.

Edited by - jbkayaker on 11/04/2010 09:04:23

Don B
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Response Posted - 11/04/2010 : 09:15:38

Definitely not the southwest coast of Florida...The dolphins, manatees, and sea turtles are vicious! But, at least you can see them coming at you in the clear, blue water.

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