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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 11/26/2002 :  21:05:51  Show Profile
Hi folks,

I put a deposit down on a C25. (Then I'll sell my C22) We survey it this saturday. Ony thoughts as what to look for in an 89 Wing Keel Tall rig. Hardly been used, fresh water docked. I noticed that the keel gudgeon is loose, as is some deck hardware. I'll sure have the transom moisture content checked. The surveyor said that doing moisture readings on non skid surfaces are unreliable because of the air spaces in the non skid. Thoughts?

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Frank Gloss
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Ben
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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  07:40:32  Show Profile
Hi Frank. I just had my (hopefully) next boat surveyed this past weekend, an 87 SR/SK. My surveyor didn't say anything about that regarding detecting moisture in the deck. I don't know what you're surveyor is using but mine used a Protometer Moisture Meter.

I hope that helps.


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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  09:07:21  Show Profile
Hi Frank,

Take a look at the top two articles in the C25 Tech Tips section. They have to do with shopping for and surveying previously owned C25s.

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/tech25.html

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839


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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  12:28:28  Show Profile
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I'd say your surveyor needs to change meters or methods... The deck, cabintop and rudder are the three most important areas to check for moisture, since they're cored with plywood. Loose deck hardware is something to be concerned about. Your '89 rudder actually is foam cored, and I believe the upper area of your transom is too. You also have none of the infamous "to-hulls" to worry about. The survey is very straightforward--a simple boat with no unusual characteristics.

Hope it goes well... If it does, you're getting a "best of breed" in the '89 wing!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  13:04:32  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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The only surface I heard that caused moisture problems is west system fiberglass epoxy. I drilled out my rudder last year and literally rebuilt the entire thing, I know for a fact it was bone dry. The meter showed water this past spring, prior to even putting the boat in the water...The next question out of the surveyors mouth was...did you used west system to fix it.

I would surmise that there might be possibility of false "Negative" water readings because of the non-skid, but "Positive" water would probably be positive regardless....but that is just a guess.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/27/2002 :  19:04:08  Show Profile
Hi Folks

Thanks for the help. I'm glad to know I'm buying the "best of breed"
You wouldn't believe the unused condition of this boat.
I'll research the moisture meter question more. Maybe a meter manufacturer has done tests.

Frank Gloss


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