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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 12/01/2002 :  09:03:55  Show Profile
Hi,

How do you "patch up" or cover the holes in the floor after making the cuts for the keel bolts?

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Paul
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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/01/2002 :  09:12:24  Show Profile
Paul,

On the dinnete installation four bolts run along the edge of the foot hold between the two seats and is covered by a piece of teak 3/4" X 6" by the space involved. This leaves one bolt hole at the base of the rear seat and is covered with a plastic through deck plate.

So PAUL why do you ask ?

Val on "CALISTA" # 3936

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 12/01/2002 :  10:43:46  Show Profile
Hi Val,

I was thinking about putting a wing keel on the Marinette.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

When I get "back in the saddle", the idea of buying a swinger and converting it is not out of the question.

I haven't seen the "patch up" issue addressed in the conversion threads.

How would it work on a traditional interior?

Thanks,

Paul
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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 12/01/2002 :  12:42:31  Show Profile
I've wondered whether or not the swing to wing conversion offers a stronger (more integral) keel to hull bond than the factory wing installation. I've thought about converting "old #549" if I ever get beyond these thin Kansas lake waters.
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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/02/2002 :  10:21:42  Show Profile
Mark,

Lacking the necessary engineering expertise to answer your question in no way deters me from doing so[;-)] My guess is that having the swings tunnel filled with stainless bolts and epoxy is a more complex structure than the factory wing, assuming the factory wing is mounted similarly to the manner in which Catalina mounted the fin. As I recall it took two/three gallons of goop provided with the kit to glue the wing to the hull.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 12/03/2002 :  13:37:04  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Having had both a swinger and a fin I think once the swinger is converted it will be stronger than the factory instalation. You have the whole top of the wing mod cemmented and bolted into the old swing keel trunk, Thats a very strong mod in my oppinion. The original Catalina installs may vary a bit over the years but the basic install or build up involved using a section of plywood laminated into the botom area of the bildge. Several boats have had trouble with leaks on the keel bolts resulting in this plywood going soft. This sometimes resulted in a loose keel or a few loose bolts and required prompt attention and repair. I think the Swing to Wing is one of the best mods I have ever seen on any boat of this type. It makes it worth the cost.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2dc09b3127cce9c9a3ea0eca50000005410" border=0> You can see the mold or mate line here on this fin its about 8 to 12" below the hull.

Doug&Ruth
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