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Harleyworker
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Initially Posted - 03/24/2011 :  16:11:12  Show Profile
I am looking around for a deal on a new/or used sail for my tall rig. Mine is the original and is way beyond blown out, not counting the numerous repairs. Which got me thinking, with the tall rig boom being low and I will be putting a Bimini on this season, why not look for a different sail that would raise my boom. I have a floating gooseneck and have a mast gate and leave my sail on all season. The tall rig luff is 27'4" with a foot of 9'4", the sail I'm looking at has a luff of 26'9" and a foot of 10'. I measured the boom and the foot will fit and the luff is 7" shorter which will give me a little extra head room for the Bimini. Does anyone see any problems with this that isn't jumping out at me? I realize it might affect my helm, but I can re-tune the rig to the new sail to maybe alleviate that. I sail inland lake, don't race.
Harley
1979 C25 tall/fin
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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  17:40:06  Show Profile
Eric, we received a phone call just yesterday informing us that our new sails were finished. Briefly, we wanted to achieve exactly what you describe above. We received standard rig measurements (goose neck pin to the deck) from a fellow forum member. We determined we needed to have 12" subtracted off the foot of the tall rig mainsail so the boom would be in the same position as a standard rig.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  18:08:03  Show Profile
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cshaw
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  18:12:54  Show Profile
You do not have to cut your sails short on the hoist to be able to clear your bimini. Confetti is a tall rig, and I simply added a cunningham grommet to the luff about 9" up the luff from the tack, and another grommet out at the clew, also about 9" up the leech (like a very short flattening reef).

When I use the bimini, I simply take in what I call my "Bimini Reef". When I race or am not using the bimini, I let the bimini reef out.

Chuck
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Harleyworker
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  18:18:29  Show Profile
OJ, did you stay with the stock foot? I remember awhile back you working on this. The sail I'm looking at has a foot of 10' and I wonder if the backstay might rub the leach, since it's a fatter sail. And running the numbers it actually has more sail area. Chuck, that's just to much work. Lol.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  18:27:43  Show Profile
Eric, I plead ignorance. I told the sailmaker what I was trying to achieve and I trusted him to do the rest. I think you owe it to yourself to talk with Gary Swenson at Ullman-Ventura before you make a final decision. Many here and at my marina have purchased from him and I've heard nothing but praise.
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Harleyworker
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Response Posted - 03/24/2011 :  18:35:07  Show Profile
John, I saw that, but he has no mains listed, but I am thinking about that 135 tall furling. I emailed them yesterday and got a prompt reply, from the distribution center in Colorado. I'm still on the fence about it, since I just finished sewing the sailrite kit onto my old headsail to convert it from hanks to furling this winter to go on my new(to me) CDI.
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TCurran
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Response Posted - 03/25/2011 :  03:39:55  Show Profile
Chuck, next race is a bimini race...
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cshaw
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Response Posted - 03/25/2011 :  06:14:14  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TCurran</i>
<br />Chuck, next race is a bimini race...
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Ahhhh Tom, you sneaky guy!!!! :-)

Chuck
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/25/2011 :  09:08:28  Show Profile
I set attachment points so I can transfer the bimini from our C-22 to the C-25, which is a TR. The "H" dimension of the bimini is 36" and it just barely fits under the boom with the sail fully hoisted. At first we reefed the main and set the boom above the gate but soon discovered we could raise the full sail and still use the bimini. The only drawback is that I can't stand up under the bimini. Our anchor points are on the deck outside the coaming, but if you are buying new, I recommend getting one that attaches on top of the coaming to make it easier going forward when the bimini is down. I positioned ours so that, when open, it was centered between the boom vang and the end of the boom so it would not interfere with the vang or the mainsheet.

If you want a taller bimini and are not concerned about racing, I would suggest that you get a main sail for the Capri 25. It is about 1 ft shorter than the TR main; luff is 26.5', foot is 9.5'. The main you referenced in your original post is close to this. Before you buy, I would ask to try it out on your boat first, or at least secure the right to return it if you don't like it.
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