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Joe Diver
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2011 : 07:40:19

Where do you guys keep your aft anchor? In the dumpster?

I only have my main anchor up front of course, but I'm going to buy another Danforth, probably 8# for aft tie off to reduce swing. I guess the only place to keep it is in the locker, unless I got some hangers for the stern rail.

Scott

When we left, we had just enough fuel to make it to San Juan. And now... we are out of fuel!

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piseas
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 11:32:05

Joe, How often do you need or plan to use 2nd anchor? I rarely need it so I keep it in a bag down below. But your other 2 options are good ones. I have read others being able to keep in forward anchor locker(bow) with the primary.
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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 11:58:55

Well, since I'm on a lake with little to no current, only changing wind directions, I'd only use it to "firm up" my main anchorage from the front.....probably in a cove close to shore so I don't swing over to shallow water.

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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 12:24:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 ... for aft tie off to reduce swing.
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I've got the same swing issue. In an anchorage my boat "hunts" more than any of them. Not sure why. My plan for this season is to toss a mushroom anchor off the back on a short rode and see if that amount of drag is sufficient to limit the swinging.

A second use for the mushroom will be as a sentinel (I think that is what they call it). In very windy conditions, it will hang off my main anchor rode where the chain meets line. That is supposed to help keep the force on the anchor at lower angle. Kind of a virtual increase in scope.

I do also have a second, smaller danforth. I keep it with my other anchor in the locker forward.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 12:26:29

I keep my secondary anchor in the dumpster, but I'd have to dig it out when needed, which could be a problem if I need an anchor NOW!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 12:54:56

I'm considering a mushroom as well for the secondary....the lake bottoms around here are mostly thick silt and mud.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 13:01:18

On my 250, there is enough room for two anchors in the locker. I keep a Danforth with only a few feet of chain and 100' of 3/8" nylon ready for deployment. I keep the rode in a nylon sack that it'll feed freely out of, and it keeps it separate from the second rode. My second anchor is a claw on 30' of chain, plus 270' of 3/8 nylon (actually I think it's Dacron, it's too stiff to be nylon).

I have a bow mount for our Danforth, so I'll thread the rode through the bow roller and up to the mount so all I have to do is lower it when we're ready. I don't do this until we're close to the anchorage, I don't completely trust the mount to keep the anchor secure in heavy seas. However, once the Danforth is up in the mount, the claw is freed for easy deployment. I have a Fortress FX-11 anchor in my garage that I haven't figured out what to do with yet. The stock is too long to fit in the anchor locker, and I'm leaning towards just cutting off the 1" on each side to make it fit, but haven't made that jump yet.

I haven't considered using it as an aft anchor, and I have a 4th small anchor (for the Avon) that I could use to minimize hunting maybe. The Fortress might fit into one of the rear seat lockers on our boat. They're mostly empty anyway, so maybe I'll look into that.

I bought 90' of anchor chain for $75 from a marine supply store going out of business. I plan to put a 30' piece on my Danforth, and then I eventually want to replace both rodes with 300' each of 3/8" nylon, keeping the old ones for dock lines, lock lines, etc. Not sure what I'll do with the other 60' of chain. Maybe make up a better safety chain for launching, but that's only going to be another 12-15'.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/08/2011 : 13:31:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I've got the same swing issue. In an anchorage my boat "hunts" more than any of them.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Part of the problem is the offset when the rode is secured to a lateral cleat. I think it was Dave B. who suggested a bowline-on-a-bight as a solution. It does help. I now set my anchor and and attach another line cleated to the opposite side with a rolling hitch to the rode then pay out additional rode until it balances. About the same effectiveness, but it won't help the swing issue.

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JAB
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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 : 19:05:19

Hung a 2d Danforth-type anchor off the stern rail, with chain and nylon rode fed into the lazarette. Idea was for quick deployment while singlehanding (think emergency brake).

Didn't like the trim with the extra weight all at the very stern. It seemed like the diesel's exhaust port was awash too often. Now the second anchor resides in the dumpster again, its mass low and central.

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Response Posted - 04/09/2011 : 20:49:36

I had the dinette interior... My second anchor and rode lived in a mesh duffle bag under the aft dinette seat--maybe not ideal, but better than in the bottom of the dumpster.

Todd: The weight on the rode is called a kellet.

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 04/10/2011 : 22:36:54

I made a wood hanger mounted on a piece of plywood attached to the top edge of the inside of the locker close to the hatch of my 79. The line with 8 feet of chain stored in a bucket attached to the big danforth type anchor and the bitter end attached to the inside bracket of the engine mount. The bucket holds 200 feet of 1/2" line ready to deploy. Have used it once when running out of sea room and it worked. The anchor is easily pulled up from the hanger and the line follows. I let it over the side and walk the line forward to attach it to the bow. I installed it some years ago and it is always ready, off the floor of the locker except for the bucket.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 09:57:57

I married her 42 years ago!

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 10:21:47

Don't all year models have a dumpster shelf that runs along the port side? I find that it stores plenty of smaller items, and could even store a second anchor for easy reach.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 10:29:45

Yes, I do have that shelf...it has a wood (I think) panel with some odd shaped cutouts, not sure what they're designed for...I'd put it on the shelf.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/11/2011 : 10:45:01

Scott, the cut-outs were designed to hold coils of line and I use them also for the bitter end of my bumpers (a loop is there).
My FM radio antenna lays there, too.
My "lunch" anchor rests in the bow anchor locker along with the larger one.

Edited by - dmpilc on 04/11/2011 10:51:12

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