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Shawn
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Initially Posted - 12/06/2002 :  22:35:55  Show Profile
I own and love a 1980 Catalina 25 tr/fk,hull #1960. I would like to add another halyard. I currently have one for the main and one for the headsail. I use hank on jibs. The masthead has two pins forward of the mast itself. The pin furthest forward has the forestay attatched to it, the other one is unused.
I want the other halyard for several reasons; to speed sail changes while racing, to get rigged up to fly a chute, and just to have a backup. I am considering an asymmetrical chute instead of a tri-radial because my crew changes almost every race, and it should be a lot easier for new crew to handle and fly.
My question is, should I hang a block from the unused pin, or move the forestay to it and put the block on the forward pin? I am leaning toward leaving the forestay as is because it seems if I am just running a jib from this halyard and tacking to weather it won't chafe on the forestay. If I am flying a chute with the same set up it should be clear of the stay unless I am running dead down or jibe.
I may be completely wrong with either set up. That is why I am posting this.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Shawn




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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 12/06/2002 :  23:20:31  Show Profile
Hi Shawn,

Suggest you look at the C25 parts manual for the spinnaker set-up.

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/pc22.gif

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
Half Moon Bay, CA


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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 12/07/2002 :  08:41:57  Show Profile
Shawn: I think you'll be fine with adding your halyard inside the forestay. I have a spinnaker halyard as well as a jib halyard. With my cruising chute, it doesn't seem to matter much which halyard she's flying from. I have a similar situation trying to race my C25, and the assymetical is smaller, easier, but you'll get a break from PHRF. Good luck,

Gary B.
Encore! #685 SK/SR


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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 12/07/2002 :  08:59:44  Show Profile
Shaun,

osmepneo's mast set up is like Gary's and I use one halyard for the Jenny (Roller Furler) and the other for a spinniker. The set up works well.



Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 :  08:39:51  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Shawn,

Take a look at the parts manual. In reality, the one furthest forward is for the spinaker/extra jib. The one closer to the mast should be for the forestay.

Take a look:

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/pc14.gif

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/pc22.gif

The first pic is just for a closer view. The left side of this pic is the forward part of the masthead. The lower of the two holes is for the Forestay, the upper more left of the two is for a halyard.. You'll notice in the inset drawing of the second link (its inset A) how things should be rigged.

dw

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 12/10/2002 :  10:57:52  Show Profile
Hey Shawn,

Make sure that you rig the spinnaker halyard to the clevis pin that is the higher and most forward pin. The pin that is closer to the mast and lower is the one for the halyard. Others have given you the links to the appropriate parts catalog pages. You wouldn't think that it would make much difference, but the mast cap was enginered with these applications in mind - not the reverse.

Additionally, using a spinnaker or cruising chute with the halyard rigged properly is very efficient. Rigged backwards it can be a problem - especially lowering the sail quickly if the swivel shackle and halyard are wrapped over the forestay.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839


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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/10/2002 :  11:52:00  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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Hey Bill I think you meant to say forestay in the second sentence

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Shawn
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 :  22:06:01  Show Profile
Thankyou all for the info. I will rig it according to the Catalina specs.
Shawn


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