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markolito
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Initially Posted - 12/12/2002 : 14:30:46

hello all,
My 1980 Sk/SR has not been cleaned up in quite some time. Looking at all your pics (which i really enjoy) i noticed that most of them still have a vibrant shine througout the hull, interior and exterior. Mine has been dulled by not being properly maintained. The top of the boat also has little black specs of algae or something..
i wanted to know what wax you all use for the hull and what can be used for the topside and interior to give the boat that new-shine..
i am envious of you all!
lemme know what it is you do!!!
thanks
-marco

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 15:02:11

The black specs are mildew--comes off with light scrubbing. In the worst cases, Soft Srub with Bleach will wipe it out. 3M Fiberglass Restorer/Wax seems to be a favorite around here--it has a mild abrasive to remove oxidized gelcoat (chaulking) and leaves a nice shine that lasts pretty well. A low-speed power buffer is recommended.

On the hull above the waterline, I started using Poli-Glow, the product you can buy at boat shows or over the Web. It's a polymer finish--not wax--that takes several thin coats but involves no buffing. Each coat adds a little more gloss. Easy to apply and lasts well over a season. It's not quite as brilliant as wax, but much easier and more durable. (At the end of this year, our hull looked better than most of the waxed ones around us.) I plan to use some on the deck, cabin, and cockpit next Spring, with fewer coats (especially on the non-skid) to seal and make the areas easier to clean. I'll be testing it to see how slippery it makes things before going very far with it. You have to get the fiberglass spotless, however--Poli Glow will shine up and magnify every little mark. They sell a potent cleaner as part of their kit.

You too can have a "vibrant shine"!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 15:55:33

without going into details....3M fiberglass resorer and or de-oxidizer work great for almost all applications......However, I really don't think they have the market on some Magic ingredient......The real solution is elbow grease and patience...

which is why my boat looks like a hell hole for most of the season, because I am out sailing instead of meticulously buffing shining and scrubbing every last inch of the boat...

My motto (and I just made this up) - If its nice enough to sail, then sail...if the weather is too bad to sail, then its too bad to clean...

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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frich
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 17:08:36

Marco

When i got my 84 last year the hull was BLACK from being under trees. I used Chlorox cleaner, sprayed it on and waited a bit, with plenty of paper towels and little elbow grease i got rid of the black.

I then used a compound and 3 coats of a paste wax with lots of elbow grease. The boat shined up real nice, but as my good friend says " they all look good in the water" Dont think i would put that much effort into the waxing, possibly i will use a machine next year

Good Luck
Frank Rich
84 SK C25

PS check out a product called Marine Penetrol

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 19:00:23

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>The real solution is elbow grease and patience...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Plus, this stuff is a pretty strong "cleaner" and usually readily available...http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001& langId=-1& catalogId=10001& productId=72467. But wear protective clothing - it's a solution of hydrochloric and 4.5% oxalic acids.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 21:52:13

Another thought, Marco... IMHO, one of the keys to making a C-25 look sharp, if that's what you want, is to put a nice finish on the exterior teak "brightwork," and there's no easier way to do and maintain that than Cetol. It sets off the boat and says "taken care of" as much as anything else you can do. Gray teak appeals to some, but is really deteriorating teak. Big yachts have gray teak decks (for secure footing) and finished brightwork. The decks must be replaced from time to time because they shrink and crack.

You may notice on this board that people compliment each other on their "great looking teak"... When it's finished, it gets noticed.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 22:47:49

Probably gets noticed because so many us are following Duane's motto, and don't (won't) spend the time on the hull or the teak. That includes me.

But when someone takes the time, mmmm! the finished result really stands out!

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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markolito
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Response Posted - 12/12/2002 : 23:33:09

wow!!!
i bet i'll have the boat looking like new in no time..
i used up alot of the elbow grease trying to get the teak and interior to look good.. gotta check if i still have some left..
THANKS ALOT FOR ALL YOUR INPUT!!

-marco

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 01:24:51

To those who think that cleaning a boat takes away valuable sailing time, I say "balderdash"! Of all the sailboats in my marina, mine is, hands down, the most sailed and it is also the cleanest looking. Why? Two reasons. Firstly, I sail quite a bit during the season, almost daily depending on the weather and if the boat is being sailed then the birds are not crapping all over it like the boats that only go out once a week. Secondly, I usually give the boat a quick wash(maybe 10 or 15 minutes) almost every time I go out, although somedays it only needs a 5 minute spot washing to clean up some bird sh*t. Those who let their boats go for a week or two or three, are usually the ones who are cursing, sweating, and wasting their precious sailing time trying to chip off the baked on birdsh*t while I just show up, hose off, and sail.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
On the hard near Lake Erie

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 09:35:31

Worse yet is when you're away for a few weeks and then have a run of bad weather, so the muddaubers have uninterruped access to build a nest in your covered-up mainsail, and when you hoist the main, a bunch of mud and baby wasps fall all over the cabintop, and... and...

But I never do that. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 10:43:06

Don't forget about the dust kicked up by the local train hauling ore to the steel mines...the steel mines themselves and the soon to be newly relocated iron ore-pellet processing plant right next door...(makes you wonder why I'm joining the yacht club to move upwind of that nonsense <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 10:57:19

Duane: I didn't know they could just mine steel! I thought it had to be made in a mill... <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 19:46:47

"My 1980 Sk/SR has not been cleaned up in quite some time. Looking at all your pics...I noticed that most of them still have a vibrant shine througout the hull, interior and exterior. Mine has been dulled by not being properly maintained." - Marco

Marco,

When I bought my 1980 C25 last year, it too sat neglected for a long time underneath some trees. It was covered in thick green moss, rotting black leaves, filth, wasp nests, bird nests...etc. It was so filthy that my wife refused to go on it until I cleaned it up. A bottom job was way, way overdue and the teak didn't look fit enough to burn. After heavy duty cleaning, waxing, teak refinishing, and a new bottom job, the diamond in the rough emerged. The transformation was amazing (especially the teak) and I can kick myself for not taking any "before" pictures. Keep in mind that a photo has a way of hiding many a flaw, so don't think that a boat is as pristine as in a photo.

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Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
On the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 23:16:12

The first year I used No. 7 Rubbing Compound followed by No. 7 Polishing Compound - both applied/worked with a Milwaukee 11 amp polisher. Then just the polishing compound in the following years. For wax, I've had the best results with Collinite's product number 870, Liquid Heavy Duty Fleetwax for Marine and Aeronautical Finishes.
Good luck.

Steve Madsen
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