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panhead1948
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Initially Posted - 05/04/2011 :  12:31:17  Show Profile
Hope to have the the boat in the water soon. I have some measuremant forms from Island Planet for new head and main sails. I was wondering what some people have their mast bend set at. I have never really measured mine.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/05/2011 :  09:39:20  Show Profile
Since no one else offered anything, I'll take a non-racer, educated guess that our masts are relatively short with little bend to consider when buying the average sail. Personally, I've never heard of lofts needing this particular measurement in order to make a C25 sail.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/05/2011 :  11:28:28  Show Profile
Most likely, you'll do fine just telling them which model boat you have and what rig configuration. For example, 19-- Catalina 25, std rig. also, what options you want, such as 1 or 2 reefs, loose foot or boltrope, main cunningham, flattening reef, std or full battens, insignia & hull numbers, draft stripe, etc., and what size headsail, 110, 135, 150, hank-on or furling, etc.
BTW, Dave Benjamin at Island Planet is a good guy to deal with.

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hhrock
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Response Posted - 05/14/2011 :  18:37:46  Show Profile
I strongly recommend that you get your measurements, especially for the luff. We bought a new main sail from North Sails Direct by just providing the information about our boat (25 Catalina Tall Rig, fin keel), and when we got our sail, we couldn't tighten the luff. We aren't exactly sure why - it is possible the PO raised the boom to gain head room, or the hardware on the halyard likely changed over time. The sail is now back at the loft, and now we're working to get the real measurements and figure out what our options are. (btw - our options do not include a no-cost exchange. We can either have the current sail altered or get a discount on a replacement. Both are expensive.) There is a possibility that we'll be selling a brand new sail soon, but we'll make sure to post the measurements.

I strongly recommend that you know EXACTLY what your measurements are before ordering. At a minimum, these can be compared to those of the standard stock sail and potentially save you the grief we're going through. Even if our boom had been raised, we really don't want to be forced to lower it since we bought a bimini last year and just got it "perfect."

My two cents worth,
Helen

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 05/15/2011 :  04:39:09  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">We aren't exactly sure why - it is possible the PO raised the boom to gain head room<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It's strongly possible you received the correct sail and that a PO raised the boom and used a shorter sail. Over the years I've read many topics come up on this, to gain room for a bimini. When I ordered my sails from North Direct, I checked the manual I have against the measurements they had. The new sail is within mm of the old one.

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hhrock
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Response Posted - 05/16/2011 :  15:44:22  Show Profile
Interesting that you bring that up. The only owner's manual I have came from printing it from this association, and the new sail is 3" longer than the old. But I think you're right, and the PO raised the boom. I just wish I had known or thought of that before I bought a new sail, because I really don't want to lower the boom back down.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/17/2011 :  07:02:24  Show Profile
Helen, when your old main is fully raised, is your boom above or below the groove gate? My boom is just below the gate with slight tension on the downhaul. Also, if you have a cunningham on the new sail, you could adjust your luff tension with the cunningham. A tall rig main's luff is supposed to be about 27.66 ft. according to The Sail Warehouse website.
Edit: Also 27.66 ft. per the pre-1988 owner's manual.

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kentwm
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Response Posted - 05/17/2011 :  07:18:41  Show Profile
Sometime in the past a PO raised the boom on my boat to gain headroom. It took me one race w/o the bimini up to realize something was wrong. So now when we are just crusing around with the bimini we use a cunningham to tighten the luff, when it's race time we remove the bimini and lower the boom.



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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/17/2011 :  07:46:03  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I'm confused by these raising/lowering teh boom questions - Isn't it just a sail-stop that the boom rests on? You loosen a butterfly nut and you can set teh boom anyplace you want? That is how it is on Iris.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/17/2011 :  08:42:50  Show Profile
The sail stop under my boom is held in place with a screw, not a wing nut, which would make it annoying to change. Also, maybe a P.O. changed her from a sliding gooseneck to a fixed boom set-up.

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