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OJ
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Initially Posted - 12/08/2002 : 16:00:44

Here's a mediocre picture of a sample logo I had made locally. It's plastic (not vinyl) ~1/16" thick and is fractionally different in length and heighth from the original. It can also be made from a product that has a white base with a black face which would look even more like the original - just not with the tapered edge.
Instead of interested parties contacting sign makers all over the country to download Pat's file, cutting out samples to achieve proper sizing . . . would it be easier for me to have a batch produced locally and provide them at a nomial fee?
Let me contact Catalina to see if there are any trademark issues. I know this has been a while in coming - we're almost there!
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc29b3127cce92c67d5119a80000001410" border=0>

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Walt
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Response Posted - 12/08/2002 : 17:55:41

I would be interested...
kf8tc@charter.net

Walt

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John G-
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Response Posted - 12/08/2002 : 18:38:39

OJ – It looks good I’d be interested if you have a bunch made. I would also like to know the difference in price between the solid and the two tones.
Thanks for doing the leg work. 

[url="http://www.peregrinefund.org/"]<img src="http://www.peregrinefund.org/images/intro_mid_image.GIF" border=0>[/url]
 John G- "PEREGRINE" C25-#4762 FK

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 12/08/2002 : 23:19:55

I want a pair. I was going to go to a sign shop tomorrow. But, I'd rather you add mine to your purchase. Can we get them fast?

My girl would love them for X-mas.

Contact me at: RoofRoof@aol.com

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albert
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 : 02:21:39

OJ,

Sign me up.

Albert Iturrey
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Steve Coleman
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 : 08:29:36

OJ,

Please add me to your list.

Steve Coleman
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 : 08:32:11

count me in for a set

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 : 11:49:17

Me too.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/09/2002 : 22:01:43

Well, after all the gyrations we've been through with this freaking logo - here's the response I got from my trademark inquiry with Catalina.

Steve,
We now carry the old logos in plastic. Please call our parts department at 818-884-7700 ext.253 for price and availability.
Thanks!
David Graas - Technical Support

They must have gotten enough inquiries for it to be profitable to make them again. I'm not going to interfere with Catalina's sales of spare parts - I'd rather see them get the profit to keep the company a going concern. Long live Catalina Yachts . . .

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/11/2002 : 14:15:53

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Well, after all the gyrations we've been through with this freaking logo - here's the response I got from my trademark inquiry with Catalina.

Steve,
We now carry the old logos in plastic. Please call our parts department at 818-884-7700 ext.253 for price and availability.
Thanks!
David Graas - Technical Support
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I just talked to them, 30 Bucks a set....

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CatalinaGuy
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 17:50:39

Seems like a lot of our time was used unneccesarily on this logo search. Does Catalina have a catalog, or some way for us to determine what parts they carry? It would have been nice to know about the availability of their logo beforehand.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/13/2002 : 23:03:44

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Seems like a lot of our time was used unneccesarily on this logo search. Does Catalina have a catalog, or some way for us to determine what parts they carry? It would have been nice to know about the availability of their logo beforehand.
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When we began this quest Catalina Yachts was not selling the vintage logo. As I stated above they must have gotten enough requests that they figured there would be adequate demand for it to be profitable to begin producing them again.
I think little by little they are seeing the benefits of the web. I'd be willing to bet that someday the parts catalogs for all models will be online - even online ordering. As you may know, Frank Butler is not a big fan of the internet. He's always been a hands on kind of guy with customers (and that's not a criticism.)

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 12/20/2002 : 13:39:14

DO NOT ORDER THE CATALINA LOGO!

David Graas at Catalina Yachts was mistaken....they DO NOT make the old vintage script type logo in plastic.

I ordered a pair believeing that they did. I got the new one with the block letters and the horizontal bar holding the letters together. When I called, talked to many people.....NO Vintage LOGO!!!

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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/20/2002 : 14:30:06

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DO NOT ORDER THE CATALINA LOGO!

David Graas at Catalina Yachts was mistaken....they DO NOT make the old vintage script type logo in plastic.

I ordered a pair believeing that they did. I got the new one with the block letters and the horizontal bar holding the letters together. When I called, talked to many people.....NO Vintage LOGO!!!

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Hello again David,
Based on your response below someone from the Catalina 25/250 Forum ordered what they thought was going to be the vintage (script) Catalina logo - but they received the new style (block) logo. After further inquiry it seems that Catalina Yachts does not carry the vintage logo.
So, back to my original question; would there be any trademark issues if the Catalina 25/250 Forum produced and sold the vintage logo for a nominal cost?
Could you please forward this e-mail to someone with the proper authority to answer this question?
Thanks again David and happy holidays.
Steve Madsen
Catalina 25, hull #2428
Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks for the heads up Alan . . . guess we'll revisit this after the holidays ladies and gentlemen . . .

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Bill Sloane
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Response Posted - 12/23/2002 : 17:20:36

OJ:

If Catalina Yachts does not get heartburn over this, add me to your list for two logos.

My e-mail address is: bills@msgsarch.com

Thanks. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bill.

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albert
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Response Posted - 12/23/2002 : 22:27:55

I doubt that Catalina will have a problem with the logo production for existing owners of C25's, especially if no profit is made by OJ.

Put me down for a set.

Albert Iturrey
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/27/2002 : 08:30:39

Okay, once again I am back in for a set.....

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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MikeM
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Response Posted - 01/03/2003 : 09:46:51

OJ- if you start production please put me down for a set.

Thanks

Mike M
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frich
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Response Posted - 01/03/2003 : 11:59:49

Add me in for a set (looks like another run like the sheaves of 2001)<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>]

Frank Rich frich1230@aol.com

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/03/2003 : 13:09:54

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Add me in for a set (looks like another run like the sheaves of 2001)<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>]

Frank Rich frich1230@aol.com

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I think this has surpasses the "Sheaves ought One" fiasco at this point. Has anyone definitively contacted catalina to determine if the ones they have on their shelves are indeed not the same? I seemed to recall the bad imitations being Catalina Direct and not Catalina...
dw

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Walt
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Response Posted - 01/03/2003 : 16:06:58

Put me down for a set.

Walt

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/03/2003 : 18:32:10

"Has anyone definitively contacted catalina to determine if the ones they have on their shelves are indeed not the same?" - Duane

This is what Alan Douglass posted on 12/20,

DO NOT ORDER THE CATALINA LOGO!

David Graas at Catalina Yachts was mistaken....they DO NOT make the old vintage script type logo in plastic.

I ordered a pair believing that they did. I got the new one with the block letters and the horizontal bar holding the letters together. When I called, talked to many people.....NO Vintage LOGO!!!


Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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On the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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Shawn
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Response Posted - 01/07/2003 : 18:45:17

I would be interested in a set if they ever goes into production.
Shawn
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Jack Metzel
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Response Posted - 01/16/2003 : 14:33:13

Can I assume that you all are talking about the raised logo that is affixed to the gunnel near the deck train port & starb'rd ?

If so I would rather have a decal That won't be destroyed by some careless deckhand's feet.

Sincerely
Jack Metzel

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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/16/2003 : 14:44:37

My original logos are still intact. After reading all of the replies in this thread it seems to me that rather than worring about copy writes you should be after Catalina to pay you for all the advertising you will be doing with their logo on your boat.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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OJ
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Response Posted - 01/17/2003 : 12:59:01

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Can I assume that you all are talking about the raised logo that is affixed to the gunnel near the deck train port & starb'rd ?
Jack, if I assume that I'm interpreting your description of the logo's location correctly, then yes. 
If so I would rather have a decal That won't be destroyed by some careless deckhand's feet.
The sample shown above does not have the beveled cut like the original which resulted in a thinner product - leaving less material protruding outward to catch one's foot on.

Sincerely
Jack Metzel
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