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calden
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Initially Posted - 06/12/2011 :  21:00:50  Show Profile
What is that little shallow locker for under the aft end of the starboard cockpit seat? Is it just a little shallow locker with a chain attachment for securing the motor, or did it originally have a special usage? It seems to be pretty well sealed off from moisture.

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Captnkev25
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  03:30:52  Show Profile
I was told it was a line locker. I keep my spare dock lines in there so they are easily accessible.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  03:42:07  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I do not believe I have a chain attachment in that locker. It is just a shallow sealed off locker in which I put odds and ends. When I go sailing, that's where I put my wallet and keys. When I take the lock off my companionway boards, that is also where I store my lock.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  04:05:16  Show Profile
I keep spare (transient) dock lines and a backup winch handle in there. I hadn't thought about wallet and keys, but that's a good idea.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  04:21:52  Show Profile
The previous owner of my boat cut out the bottom and extended it downward into the quarter berth. Now it holds a 5 gallon jerry jug of gasoline for longer trips. I was thinking of upgrading my 3 gallon in the fuel locker to a 6 gallon as people were talking here about and using this space for other things. Still it's nice to have the additional space...and it really doesn't take away from any room in the quarterberth. just reduces headroom in the aft end...

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  05:11:17  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by BenD</i>
<br />The previous owner of my boat cut out the bottom and extended it downward into the quarter berth.
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Hehe... my PO did the same thing. He just cut it all out and put in the plastic box with an outboard discharge hose (probably for propan bottle). I think its better in terms of storage space, but it was done badly in terms of quality. I have to reseal it properly.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  05:43:21  Show Profile
I always wanted to cut it out and put a removable cooler in there. Very low on the list.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  07:40:23  Show Profile
I have a couple of 1# propane bombs in there...I'd like to turn it into a cooler.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  09:18:12  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />I have a couple of 1# propane bombs in there...I'd like to turn it into a cooler.
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Actually this cooler fits PERFECTLY at the aft of the cockpit under the tiller, no need for a galley wench. Since the top "rolls" open and shut it doesn't bump the tiller when you open it. Keeps beverages cold all day and you can take it with you when you're done.



Here you can see the cooler, fully loaded and in attack mode as we prepare to go out. I think every C-25 owner should spend $18 on one of these coolers.



Oh, I use the starboard locker for transient lines and my bilge handle.


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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  13:44:28  Show Profile
when we were shopping FOR a C25, one guy used it as a fish locker...YECCCCHHHH

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  14:27:43  Show Profile
I believe that the compartment to which you are refering is called a Lazarette. The word is either French or Italian, therefore; I keep mine filled with ice and red wine.
Actually I keep dock lines,a flashlight,a deck squeegee and a protest flag in the lazarette. I also stow the tiller cover and instrument covers in it when sailing,to Keep from importing spiders into the cabin.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  15:44:00  Show Profile
Ice and red wine - Isn't that a BIG No-No? White wine, maybe!
I also like the idea of the bolge pump handle. I'm moving mine there, too.

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calden
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  18:00:07  Show Profile
Wow. Great ideas on usage. Thanks all. I kind of thought it might be for some very special item or unique use, but red wine is fine by me. Good place for the dock lines, actually, which I've been keeping in the dumpster.

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  04:28:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Ice and red wine - Isn't that a BIG No-No? White wine, maybe!
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Normally, yes. Red wine is supposed to be served at room temp. But that means room temp of a drafty old castle (approx.60 deg. F) and the lazaratte on a sunny day is way over 60 deg.F so hence the ice.
Of course you could store your beer in it with NO ice ande drink it the way the Brits like it, warm and foamy

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  06:49:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Renzo</i>
<br />I believe that the compartment to which you are refering is called a Lazarette. The word is either French or Italian, therefore; I keep mine filled with ice and red wine.
Actually I keep dock lines,a flashlight,a deck squeegee and a protest flag in the lazarette. I also stow the tiller cover and instrument covers in it when sailing,to Keep from importing spiders into the cabin.
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Good idea on the tiller cover, will adopt next time I'm out. We keep our red wine in the sink down below or sometimes in the main cooler, which I keep where the stove was. (I can't stand cold red wine)

I get a twenty pound bag of ice, ice up the red and white satellite cooler with about 16 beers. The remainder of the ice, beer, drinks and food stay in the main cooler down below. I've found that if we mainly use the red and white cooler for beer and pretty much stay out of the main cooler except when needed the ice makes it for 24 hours or more.

main cooler AKA Mothership.



Oh and for getting said beer, food, beverages and ice to the boat, do yourself a favor and spend $30 on one of these Magnacart Fold Up Hand Trucks, they are worth every penny and eliminate multiple trips to the car to load in the boat. Folds up and fits nicely pretty much anywhere on the boat. I find I can carry a bunch of stuff like ice, beer at the bottom and I can wrap the bag handles around the handle so I end up being able to transport a heck of a lot of stuff with just one hand.


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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  07:05:31  Show Profile
I've got one of those Igloo Ice Cubes, but the smaller size. I usually keep it in the galley floor depression, fits perfectly. I have a larger white marine cooler, and when I use it I keep it against the bulkhead in front of the dining table (locked up position).

I like the idea of a Playmate there at the stern....quite handy to have right there. I may see how my Ice Cube fits before I buy yet another cooler to add to my collection. I probably already have one that will fit there anyway.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  07:35:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />I've got one of those Igloo Ice Cubes, but the smaller size. I usually keep it in the galley floor depression, fits perfectly. I have a larger white marine cooler, and when I use it I keep it against the bulkhead in front of the dining table (locked up position).

I like the idea of a Playmate there at the stern....quite handy to have right there. I may see how my Ice Cube fits before I buy yet another cooler to add to my collection. I probably already have one that will fit there anyway.
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The only problem with a conventional cooler under the tiller is that the lid has to come up which is why the playmate rocks as the lid rolls open. "Tentshape locking lid prevents spills, Top pushbutton for 1 hand opening; lid swings open to either side for easy access...."

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  11:12:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Renzo</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Ice and red wine - Isn't that a BIG No-No? White wine, maybe!
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Normally, yes. Red wine is supposed to be served at room temp. But that means room temp of a drafty old castle (approx.60 deg. F) and the lazaratte on a sunny day is way over 60 deg.F so hence the ice.
Of course you could store your beer in it with NO ice ande drink it the way the Brits like it, warm and foamy
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I was thinking the same thing - red wine is supposed to be a cool room temperature. I've gotten chastised before by dinner guests when they see me pull a slightly chilled bottle of cab out of the refrigerator. But you don't want it warm.

Same thing with the beer! Room temp doesn't mean warm, just not ice cold. By the way, try a bottle of Coors or Bud Lite at room temperature and see how long you last. It's an embarrassment to the industry.

Carlos

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  12:38:12  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by calden</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Renzo</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dmpilc</i>
<br />Ice and red wine - Isn't that a BIG No-No? White wine, maybe!
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Normally, yes. Red wine is supposed to be served at room temp. But that means room temp of a drafty old castle (approx.60 deg. F) and the lazaratte on a sunny day is way over 60 deg.F so hence the ice.
Of course you could store your beer in it with NO ice ande drink it the way the Brits like it, warm and foamy
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I was thinking the same thing - red wine is supposed to be a cool room temperature. I've gotten chastised before by dinner guests when they see me pull a slightly chilled bottle of cab out of the refrigerator. But you don't want it warm.

Same thing with the beer! Room temp doesn't mean warm, just not ice cold. By the way, try a bottle of Coors or Bud Lite at room temperature and see how long you last. It's an embarrassment to the industry.

Carlos
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Right, but achieving room temperature in Texas on a C-25 takes a bit of ingenuity. We already hit 100 yesterday here in the Dallas area.

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  12:39:52  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Being a wine enthusiast, I like to let my red wine from my refrigerated wine cellar, which is not quite as cold as my house refrigerator, sit for about 1 hour before I drink it. A food refrigerator is kept well below 50 degrees Fahrenheit, much too cold for a wine refrigerator. Wine should be stored at around 55-56 degrees.
That being said, I no longer serve red wine on the boat while sailing or in my slip, due to too many spilling accidents. I am tired of cleaning the cushions and deck. Unfortunately, I am just as guilty as my guests having not only spilled on my boat but others as well. Boating is about the only time I drink white.
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  21:49:15  Show Profile
Had a GREAT sail tonight...the winds were strong and steady and the puffs were minor and manageable. Sailed on the main alone to work on perfecting my control and sail shaping...had the lake to myself strangely enough, so used the boat club buoys, sailing the race courses, rounding buoys....it was alot of fun!

Peter...put my Igloo Ice Cube back at the stern....perfect place for it and easy access to my bottled water, Gatorade and sandwich (glad I had that!). Only have to lift the tiller a little bit, so it's not as easy as your Playmate, but still worked out great.



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Response Posted - 06/15/2011 :  07:41:48  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Joe Diver</i>
<br />Had a GREAT sail tonight...the winds were strong and steady and the puffs were minor and manageable. Sailed on the main alone to work on perfecting my control and sail shaping...had the lake to myself strangely enough, so used the boat club buoys, sailing the race courses, rounding buoys....it was alot of fun!

Peter...put my Igloo Ice Cube back at the stern....perfect place for it and easy access to my bottled water, Gatorade and sandwich (glad I had that!). Only have to lift the tiller a little bit, so it's not as easy as your Playmate, but still worked out great.



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Ha awesome!

By the way, next week we are entering Joint Venture, my friend's C-27, into Dallas Race Week. We will be racing every night next week, you are more than welcome to come join us for a race or three, I'm sure we will be looking for crew. It's an awesome experience and one you shouldn't miss.

http://www.dallasraceweek.com/

Any other DFW area sailors are welcome as well.

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Response Posted - 06/15/2011 :  11:15:24  Show Profile
Awesome...that sounds like a blast. Okay, I'm coming out for one or more of the races and after party. I've got a buddy who used to sail alot too and he's been trying to free up time to go sailing with me...he works for the AAC, so now he finally has time off, so I'll ping him on this as well...he may already know, as he told me Ray Hubbard is "his lake".

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Response Posted - 06/16/2011 :  15:30:12  Show Profile
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<br />Awesome...that sounds like a blast. Okay, I'm coming out for one or more of the races and after party. I've got a buddy who used to sail alot too and he's been trying to free up time to go sailing with me...he works for the AAC, so now he finally has time off, so I'll ping him on this as well...he may already know, as he told me Ray Hubbard is "his lake".
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Cool, yeah if he sails on this lake, he knows. What marina is he out of? What boat? Hardly wait to go sailing tomorrow, wife and kids are out of town, so we're going to push it, throw all the laundry up and rock.

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Cool Room temp is achieved by lining the floor of teh bilge with a towel, and sticking a couple bottles in there.

The "lazarette" is where you keep teh air horn so you can reach it in a hurry. Also a can of butane and a can of propane. Dock lines there are a good idea.

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Response Posted - 06/16/2011 :  21:41:14  Show Profile
He doesn't have a boat....he told me he grew up sailing and racing though, and they lived out on LRH. Now his family has a lakehouse on Ouchita....we're going to spend a week up there in August, small group of us. He said they have a couple of boats in the boathouse, one a pontoon boat...that's gonna be great because I've always wanted to dive Ouchita.

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