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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/06/2011 :  11:55:09  Show Profile
Don, I'm simply saying that I think the chances are greater for a miss if you have to reach for something that's on the dock as opposed to having the line in your hand as you approach. As I approach, my boat is nearly stopped long before I drop the line unless the wind happens to be behind me and that's not common. I used the lasso analogy only to illustrate the size/shape and draping characteristics the line provides. I never just toss it. The reason that it's easier is because I've eliminated a step. I don't have to retrieve a line and attach it quickly. The lines in my hand approaching. Fewer steps, fewer chances for error.

Ray, you'd have to pay me an awful lot of money to jump to a dock from a moving boat. While I agree the chances of something bad happening might be slim, the bad thing that could happen could be really bad. I don't want to get between the dock and a 6000 lb object with no brakes.
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Response Posted - 07/06/2011 :  12:42:51  Show Profile
Well.. anyhoo.. I'd think the traditional method of grabbing a dockline with the boat hook is still the best. They even have them up on the posts in loops here in Apalachicola.. seems that would be pretty easy to grab. maybe you could leave loops on the side of the dock hanging out.
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Response Posted - 07/06/2011 :  13:07:06  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Again Don, Never approach a dock any faster than you're willing to hit it. I approach a dock at about 1/2 mph. The reason a dock-o-matic might be nice for a transient dock is in case of wind/current irritations, especially if single handing.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/06/2011 :  17:37:47  Show Profile
It's not my primary purpose to use the device to stop the boat as I, too, normally coast into the slip at a crawl. I generally cut power before passing the first slip at the end of the pier and glide into our slip. If I time it corectly, the boat stops by itself and I can loop the line over thecleat and winch to keep from drifting sideways into the boat next to us. I don't like to put stress on the dock cleats.
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Response Posted - 07/06/2011 :  18:16:50  Show Profile
Actually, I enter my slip so sloooowly, and without the outboard, that I usually have to scull the rudder to get me in the last few feet. My springline is used simply to keep the bow from contacting the concrete dock while I'm placing the other docklines.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 07/08/2011 :  04:01:39  Show Profile
You could add quick release clips to a boathook.

http://www.alltackle.com/release_clips.htm
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/08/2011 :  05:37:52  Show Profile
A big part of what I put together, and the Nauti-dock-o-matic too, I'm sure, is the simplicity and low cost. I'm sure I spent less than $15 on the whole thing. As soon as I can get back to the boat, early next week, I'll take a pic and post it.
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Response Posted - 07/08/2011 :  06:51:17  Show Profile
Yepper.. I was thinking along the lines of a hair clip on a boat hook.

Look forward to seeing your setup.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/14/2011 :  10:21:10  Show Profile
Finally got out to take some pics. As I wrote previously, it is a work in progress. I may shorten it 4-6" and I want to get the knot inside the pipe:
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/14/2011 :  12:42:27  Show Profile
Intriguing David. I wonder about limiting yourself based on the angle of approach????? What happens if you miss? I also wonder about the sudden impact on the winch. I understand it's designed to take lateral pressure but the sudden jolt should you happen to approach quickly? (not that you would intentionally). Given your long jib track wouldn't an adjustable cleat be a better option?
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/15/2011 :  12:27:37  Show Profile
It's also for landing at other docks, a reacher to another boat coming along side, etc. Jib track cleats are way too expensive in my book, thought about buying one for our spring line, but the marina installed a mid-finger dock cleat so I didn't need to do it. My original intent was for me to hold the device coming in and snag the cleat while the admiral steered the boat, but it does work just slipped over the winch. I doubt that I'll ever come in too fast to use it safely.
If I miss, we'd most likely hit the dock! I try very hard to avoid doing that.
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