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Stu Jackson C34
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Initially Posted - 07/25/2011 :  15:01:37  Show Profile
You guys are my favorite resource for outboard engine info.

Had a great day yesterday. Our son Morgan came with me and we got the dinghy inflated and the outboard engine going in preparation for our Delta trip in mid-August. Anyone know about a 2 stroke 1990 Evinrude outboard engine, specifically low idle in neutral? Runs great in forward and reverse, but barely idles...:-! Engine had been stored vertically for a few years. Started up on the 14th pull.

I'm pretty sure it's the carb, but I need more details...and hopefully a link to a website with a picture of the carb, or to a specific, not generic book for this particular engine (I have a link to great writeups on those old Johnson/Evinrude engines, but it has no pictures).

New gas (poured the old stuff in the car), added ethanol stabilizer and 2 cycle oil to the clean gas tank; does have an old squeeze bulb and hose, but runs fine in gear.

Plugs OK (Am I correct in thinking that if it runs well in gear the plugs are fine? I know they're gapped right and have hardly been used.)

Carb deposits - next thing to tackle

Idle speed - I'm searching for a picture of the carb to find the right adjustment. Just did it yesterday and had to work today, so also have to find my old engine manual - it's somewhere in a box in the garage!

Will carb cleaner work?

Seems I need to adjust the idle screw. Any pointers or pictures to locate it?

Stu

Stu
1986 C34 #224 "Aquavite"
Cowichan Bay, BC Maple Bay Marina
(formerly San Francisco)
(formerly C25 #2459 "Capricorn Two")

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 07/25/2011 :  15:26:07  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
i have that engine and a shop manual. I'll check it out and get back to you.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 07/26/2011 :  04:58:49  Show Profile
rich/lean screw on mine ( 1984 Johnson 6hp sailmaster )

6 oclock on startup and 9 oclock running.

Just my experience on mine. Skips at 6 when it has warmed up and quits skipping as soon as I lean it out.

also, we are running in relatively warm temps here.


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DaveR
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Response Posted - 07/26/2011 :  06:10:59  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I believe that the jet attached to the float in the carb is what governs the flow of gas for idling. So I'd take a look there to see if there's any goo attached, and as always, blow some compressed air through every orifice. But cleaning up a carb is really very easy and if I've got ANY problems with how my motor is running I completely tear it down and clean it up. I've even found a small piece of crud on the idle (air/fuel mixture)needle valve that messed with idle.

Just guessing but I'll bet this is close to what you've got.
[url="http://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1990&hp=8&model=E8RLESR&manufacturer=Evinrude&section=Carburetor"]1990 Evinrude 8 carb diagram[/url]

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/29/2011 :  09:45:29  Show Profile
Many thanks for the information.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/31/2011 :  15:14:43  Show Profile
When in doubt, get the engine model right from the engine itself! Doh! Just did and get now find the "right" carb.

Thanks again, gentlemen.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 08/29/2011 :  10:39:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redeye</i>
<br />rich/lean screw on mine ( 1984 Johnson 6hp sailmaster )

6 oclock on startup and 9 oclock running.

Just my experience on mine. Skips at 6 when it has warmed up and quits skipping as soon as I lean it out.

also, we are running in relatively warm temps here.


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That was THE answer. The rich lean worked better as a choke than anything else. When i opened the cowl, the choke lever didn't seem to do anything at all, only clicked between a couple of metal tabs that didn't seem to be connected to anything!

The engine fired pretty much right up, and worked all week.

Thanks again for your help.

Any ideas what the choke lever is doing by doing seemingly nothing?

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 08/29/2011 :  11:16:00  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
The choke (on small engines) leaver is generally connected to a shaft that holds a metal flap that opens sand closes the air intake to the carburetor.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 08/29/2011 :  11:48:53  Show Profile
That choke was usually a very simple link to the metal plate that turns and blocks the carb opening... easy to see in the diagram, although the choke is not connected in the diagram... just like yours apparently.

You might be missing the link on the choke knob... shown in the parts list #335226.

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 08/30/2011 :  17:30:18  Show Profile
If you have not replaced the original fuel lines with line labeled "achohol resistant" AND you are using ethanol contaminated gasoline, then expect the carburetor to get clogged with the semi-dissolved interior of the fuel lines. Maybe the additive will save your engine but I wouldn't count on it.

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