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mikesuej
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Initially Posted - 08/16/2011 : 06:42:14

My furling line on my 1997 C250 wk could use another fairlead toward the cockpit so I was thinking about replacing the horn cleat with some kind of combinatation cleat/fairlead. Anybody have any suggestions? Would like to just use the two holes from the horn cleat now, but could also just fill and cover. Thanks!

Michael T. Janocik
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 07:01:01

I replaced my horn cleat with a swiveling cam cleat with fairlead. Works great.

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 10:56:44

Mike, sorry to hijack your thread, but....Randy, where did you get that cup holder?

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 12:10:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by gpc
 Mike, sorry to hijack your thread, but....Randy, where did you get that cup holder?
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Sorry to hijack your response, but I've seen those for sale at West Marine. I personally don't like the gimballed ones, but make sure you get the ones that have the screw that secure it to your stanchion.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_11151_10001_96254_-1?cid=chanintel_google&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=96254

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mikesuej
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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 12:21:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by gpc
 Mike, sorry to hijack your thread, but....Randy, where did you get that cup holder?
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That's quite alright - good drink holders seem elusive. . . I installed a small Blue Performance cockpit bag on the front side of the fuel locker. The pockets on port and starboard are perfect size for bottled water, cokes, etc.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|118|75227|753824&id=753211

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 13:27:51

Mike I have a self jamming cleat like this [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10391|292249|312057&id=79387"]one[/url]. Works great for me. And it has 2 holes.

Steve A

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 14:20:05

My wife gets very frustrated fiddling with the horn cleat for the furling line, especially if we partially furl the sail in heavier winds. So I was thinking of getting a cam cleat similar to what Randy showed. However, maybe one of these clam cleats might be better:

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 14:57:32

I have a rope clutch for mine. No danger of a partially furled sail coming totally unfurled in a blow.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 15:46:52

I have a cam cleat off of one of my spin winches.

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 19:30:06

I think the cup holders are from WM. I like the gimbals and we don't use the set screw. They hold on the stanchions very well. We now have them hanging off the bottom tubes of the catbird seats.

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Response Posted - 08/16/2011 : 19:51:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 I think the cup holders are from WM. I like the gimbals and we don't use the set screw. They hold on the stanchions very well. We now have them hanging off the bottom tubes of the catbird seats.
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WM carries some of the SnapIt line. But you can get the best selection directly [url="http://marine.snapitproducts.com/"]from their website[/url]. They make good stuff, and their workmanship is impeccable. If you have any questions just call them and you'll speak directly to the owner. Here are a few things I have:

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Response Posted - 08/17/2011 : 06:49:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 I think the cup holders are from WM. I like the gimbals and we don't use the set screw. They hold on the stanchions very well. We now have them hanging off the bottom tubes of the catbird seats.
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I actually lost one that wasn't built with a set screw the other weekend when the jib sheet caught on it. Plus, it makes it a little harder for someone to walk away with.

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Response Posted - 08/17/2011 : 07:32:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RhythmDoctor
 My wife gets very frustrated fiddling with the horn cleat for the furling line, especially if we partially furl the sail in heavier winds. So I was thinking of getting a cam cleat similar to what Randy showed. However, maybe one of these clam cleats might be better:

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This is what I was thinking, too - hoping that the hole dimensions would match the horn cleat. There is also a cleat like this with a fairlead wheel that would more or less capture the line and keep it ready to be cleated, but I don't see it in your pic. I'm going to measure the center-to-center hole dimension and see if one of these would work out.

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Response Posted - 08/17/2011 : 07:59:11

I went to the boat yesterday and measured the horn cleat. You can see it on the edge of this pic:

The hole spacing is 1-3/8". For the first time I noticed that the cleat looks like it's self-jamming on one side, but there are two problems. The jamming end is in the front, and would likely engage better if it was aft. Also, the 1/4" furler line is lot large enough to really engage effectively in the jamming section.

This got me to thinking that maybe I could install a clam or "V-Cleat" on top of the horn cleat. The clam could be used for a quick temporary restraint while adjusting the jib sheet, then once things settle down the horn cleat could be engaged for a more secure attachment. But having a clam on top could interfere with the proper operation of the horn. It might be better to replace the horn with a self-jamming one that is small enough to grab onto a 1/4" furling line. Or, a less weathered furler line might have more "meat" to grab on to. It's been on my list for replacement for awhile, so maybe it's time to move it up the priority list.

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Response Posted - 08/18/2011 : 17:37:21

I would agree that the cleat would be better if reversed for most. My situation required a different solution. The problem is that SWMBO does not have the hand strength to furl the jib if winds pipe up and a smaller headsail is required. A way had to be set up for her to use the winch. This fix then allows for the jam cleat to stay as located. Here is my fix.

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