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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/26/2012 :  23:16:02  Show Profile
Amen!
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 :  06:44:19  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Do they have Killians on tap
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 :  07:54:00  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DaveR</i>
<br />Do they have Killians on tap<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...or a good IPA?
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  13:55:45  Show Profile
How about this unit? Anyone tried it? It claims to not produce CO, yet uses combustion. I will be reading up on the alcohol/CO relationship...

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product2_11151_10001_43609_-1____ProductDisplayErrorView

Add another FF/EMT/SAR person to the mix. I will see if I can grab one of our four-gas meters and do a similar experiment on my C250.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 :  22:43:53  Show Profile
CSM, do a search for Origo, I think you'll find a lot of discussions on that heater.
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csmcg
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 :  23:57:30  Show Profile
Thanks Jim. Will do.
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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 :  06:57:08  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by csmcg</i>
<br />How about this unit? Anyone tried it? It claims to not produce CO, yet uses combustion. I will be reading up on the alcohol/CO relationship... <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

In the camping world, alcohol stoves can be safely used in a vestibule, but there is still a CO risk. So I would assume the same for the WM product. My understanding is that if there is a flame, there is a drain on oxygen and theat automatically means CO...

sten
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 :  08:48:23  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by csmcg</i>
<br />How about this unit? ...It claims to not produce CO<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Hmmmm... I believe alcohol produces LESS carbon monoxide than petroleum-based fuels, but I'm not sure about NONE. I do know alcohol stoves generate a lot of slightly smelly water vapor.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 :  10:38:45  Show Profile
ETOH has a higher ratio of hydrogen to carbon than long chain petroleum products, so it produces more water and less CO2 and CO as oxidation products. Carbon oxidation also releases <u>much</u> more energy than hydrogen oxidation, so it takes more pounds of ETOH to produce as much energy (heat) as petroleum and, consequently, more water vapor. Anything containing carbon that is burned will likely produce some percentage of CO.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 :  18:35:01  Show Profile
See--I ain't no chemist, but my nose knows.
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RCarie
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Response Posted - 02/22/2012 :  18:45:07  Show Profile
If you are ready to add a butane grill to your inventory, search out primus vidar. I just got mine and believe it will work just fine. You are welcome to post a link and pictures for others to critique.

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