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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/06/2012 :  14:02:12  Show Profile
I believe John is referring to the theoretical hull speed calculation.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/06/2012 :  14:26:24  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pastmember</i>
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<br /> There are a couple of 27's in our area, my friend has a 27 with an atomic 4, another has an OB mounted inboard, with a big hole in the transom. Haven't noticed
a strictly OB before.

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That was my point, I am no expert but I thought OB 27s had the cutout in their transom, and if a boat has an OB with no cut out then there probably is a dead inboard inside.
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I know of three I can think of right off the bat, they have the outboard mounted on the port side, just like my C-25. To my knowledge none of them ever had an inboard, but I could be wrong.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/06/2012 :  22:42:53  Show Profile
Looking at the pictures it appears there is an enclosure under the companionway which I don't think the OB boats have. Looks just like the enclosure the C25 inboards have.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  08:32:50  Show Profile
The ones I've seen with outboards looked like this:



The opening is to a well with a drain in a transom lazarette of sorts. I suspect C-27s with outboards on transom brackets are "repowered" inboard boats.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  09:22:02  Show Profile
Here's a C27 with a HULA.


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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  09:31:59  Show Profile
Funny, I've never seen one with that sort of outboard set up but I know they were built.

Here is the OB on JV, same kind I have Merc 4 9.9 long shaft.





All three C-27's we race against have the same set up, with different OB's. Wonder if it's a regional thing? maybe all three were inboard and for whatever reason they yanked it out?

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  09:47:03  Show Profile
Is it not possible that they had both outboard options? They moved the C25 outboard, so why not?

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  09:53:17  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by NautiC25</i>
<br />Is it not possible that they had both outboard options? They moved the C25 outboard, so why not?
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I would think so. I'll be going to the marina tonight to cealn up my boat from last weekend, will ask Keelan.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  11:53:17  Show Profile
It is quite likely that the early C-27's had the outboard set in the lazarette cut-out (we have one at our marina that way) and later the o/b bracket treatment was established so the lazarette could be closed up and usable for storage, etc.
In the very early 70's, I sailed with a guy in FL on a Morgan 24. It had a removable plug in the floor of the lazarette and a molded in bracket for the outboard.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/07/2012 :  12:02:56  Show Profile
It is quite likely that the early C-27's had the outboard set in the lazarette cut-out (we have one at our marina that way) and later the o/b bracket treatment was established so the lazarette could be closed up and usable for storage, etc.
In the very early 70's, I sailed with a guy in FL on a Morgan 24. It had a moulded-in mounting bracket in the lazarette for the outboard and a removable plug in the floor (outer hull) for the o/b shaft. Advantages: O/B protected from following seas, prop under hull like an inboard, and motor could be removed and put below easily for racing. Disadvantages: Couldn't use the lazarette for anything but the motor, fuel, etc., had to keep the lazarette lid partially open for ventilation when running the motor.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/08/2012 :  20:15:49  Show Profile
I sailed on my bosses C27 in the mid-70's and it had the transom cutout with the outboard mounted inside. To me it was a PIA to adjust your speed and control F-N-R.

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