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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/23/2012 : 14:57:32

The Triton was high on my list for a long time. Heels quickly to her lines in even a modest breeze but stays there when the wind picks up. As well found a boat as you could ask for, but I succumbed to the more spacious interior of newer designs.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/24/2012 : 06:53:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NautiC25
 But it would certainly make me feel much better knowing that it was there just in case. I rarely use a motor either, but I sure as hell keep it mounted and start it up each time I go out to make sure it works.
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My marina frowns upon sailing in/out. In fact, it's a no-no. Even in an emergency power loss, they prefer you get a tow and have a maintenance dingy that will come to the channel mouth and get you.

How common is this in other areas?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/24/2012 : 08:13:33

It isn't forbidden at my marina in an emergency, but it's seriously frowned upon even then. I don't care how good anyone thinks he is, it's dangerous, unless your slip happens to be unusually open and accessible. In most marinas, where you have to travel down a long fairway full of other boats to get to your slip, what do you do if another boat suddenly pulls out of his slip, blocking your way, or if another boat is too close to the middle of the fairway and doesn't allow you enough room to pass by? if you have an engine, you can use reverse to stop or maneuver your boat. If you are under sail, or coasting without power, you have no brakes or ability to stop or maneuver.

The marina where I used to keep my boat was very open, and it had lots of maneuvering space, which made it easier than most places to sail in and out. One fellow was skilled at sailing into his slip, and did it alot, but he still had to fend off of other boats from time-to-time, and, instead of being impressed by his boat handling skills, the other owners considered him a showoff, a nuisance, and a hazard to their boats.

It's a good skill to learn, but it should be practiced away from, the marina. If you must sail to your slip in an emergency, blow the danger signal on your horn, to warn people that you have a problem.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/24/2012 : 08:49:34

The Admiral and I once had to sail into an unfamiliar marina in our delivery trip with our brand-new-to-us C-25 after a cooling hose blew inside the outboard... I contacted the marina so they had a guy on the dock waiting, and they told me where the easiest spot would be. We came in under the roller-genny alone so we could gradually reduce sail down to nothing as we approached and, if necessary, luff it from any angle (not always possible with the main). I still misjudged my momentum somewhat (my first 5,000 lb. boat), and the guy on the dock had to wrestle with my pulpit a little more than I would've hoped... but there was no impact.

Luckily (?) it was right after a rain squall, so there were no boats out in the narrow harbor or the marina fairway, and there was no appreciable tidal current. I would never count on all of those advantages again. (The rain also meant there were no Good Samaritans out there to tow us in.)

It was emphatically against our boat club rules.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/24/2012 : 12:34:27

At my marina, it is spelled out in the slip contract that maneuvering under sail within the marina is strictly prohibited, but I've done it once due to an engine problem. It was rather a non-event as I came in at the same speed I would normally, sloooow, then furled the sail at the point where I usually shift into neutral, gliding the last 100 feet through two turns into the slip. Since I'm set up with spring lines, I never power stop in the slip because that's just asking for trouble as the docks in my marina are made of concrete and steel on steel pilings which wins in all duels. I'll say one thing, these docks sure do make one better at docking in rather short order!

Edited by - dlucier on 03/24/2012 18:48:06

awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/10/2012 : 17:33:59

I know this is an old thread, but I've been enjoying some of the reading on the Atom Voyages website and ran across this thread.

The Atom Voyages website is down at this hour, but you can normally find it at http://atomvoyages.com. If you look at the article on his second circumnavigation you can read about him sailing part of the Panama canal and be towed for the other part. He references major fines for not having a working motor, but he wasn't fined. He did borrow a non-working motor and didn't find out that it didn't work until it was too late.

I sailed with a friend yesterday who has a motorless Yankee 30 (a really fantastic sailing boat). We sailed in an out of Shilshole Marina in Seattle. He used a large sculling oar to get us out of the slip and onto the fairway, then we set sail. We sailed back into the slip under main. He does this all the time (his other option is sculling) and has a lot of experience with it. There are a few other engineless boats in this size range (roughly double the displacement of a Catalina 25) at the marina. I have to say that it was really nice going sailing and never hearing the motor go, even once.

On the other hand my boat was recent scratched (and that's about to be repaired) from having a slip neighbor sail back into our slip and not handle a gust very well. My boat is moored on a linear dock with limited space to maneuver and really isn't safe for sailing in and out.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 09/11/2012 : 07:09:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">My guess is he decided that, on balance, a motor can be a high maintenance item, requiring that he carry spare parts, and he needed the storage space more than he needed the motor.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
That was a fairly common decision in the days before people decided that they needed refrigerators, freezers, A/C, engine driven desalinaters, and all the other junk that makes the common "cruiser" of today a 45 footer. Not that there aren't still a lot of the smaller boats out there, but the new cruiser market demographic is money. The last "Whisper", the boat the Hiscocks used for a couple of circumnavigations, is about 29' and has added a couple more circumnavigations under the current owners. The Pearson Triton has had a place in my heart since I first stepped aboard one 25 years ago. If you want to go, then, like the Pardey's said, "Go small, go now!"

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