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Prospector
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Initially Posted - 04/19/2012 :  17:01:59  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
So i attended the pre-season race meeting at the new club, and teh club measurer took a lot of time to go over class rules vs. phrf, and apparently they expect you to sail with all equipment stated in teh class rules for your boat including all cushions, galley equipment, etc.

We removed our stove ages ago. Some of our members have removed tanks. Some have added considerably to their boats with new interiors. How far does our class rule delve into this stuff? (I've never actually looked it up)

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Response Posted - 04/19/2012 :  19:52:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />...How far does our class rule delve into this stuff? (I've never actually looked it up)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">[url="http://catalina-capri-25s.org/racing/apps_docs/Class%20Rules/Catalina%2025%20International%20Class%20Rules.pdf"]Class Rules[/url]

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/20/2012 :  07:18:33  Show Profile
The class rules are intended to preserve a level playing field, not to create an uneven one. C25s were built and sold with many options. One option, for example, was the Princess alcohol stove. The vanity sink was another option. If a boat that was originally bought with a Princess stove was required to race against another boat that was originally bought without that option, that would, at least theoretically, force the former to race at a perpetual disadvantage. I don't think the rule should be construed to require that. I think the rule should be construed to require that a boat be equipped with all original, non-optional equipment, or it's functional equivalent. That would create a level playing field, and it would also permit an owner to upgrade such equipment as the stove, which would make the boat safer and more functional. Personally, I have never believed that an extra hundred pounds of weight made much difference on our C25s. They don't plane easily, so the extra weight wouldn't prevent the boat from planing. In fact, more often than not, I preferred to carry more crew weight than needed to work the boat, because they held the boat upright in strong winds, and they could induce the boat to heel more in light air. Whether in light air or strong winds, extra movable ballast was a good thing. Fixed ballast wasn't much of a benefit, but IMO it didn't hurt. When sailing to windward against chop, I suppose a little extra weight would help the boat punch through it.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 10/19/2012 :  13:28:00  Show Profile
In C-22 racing, items added in later years, which were options in the beginning, such as the slide-out galley, are not required to remain on the boat. Numerous changes to the rules have been made over the years, so now, for example, the dinette table and interior cushions are no longer required to stay on the boat. The hatch boards covering the storage compartments under the seats must stay on board, but they don't have to remain in their normal position, so most of us toss them in the v-berth to move the weight forward.

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