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Joe Diver
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Initially Posted - 04/21/2012 : 14:50:41

This week's teak is ready to go back to the boat tomorrow.

I did the small bulkhead between the galley and port settee:

BEFORE:

It had some water damage I had to repair as best I could. It wasn't enough to replace the bulkhead and the over-sanded area is covered by the cushion.

AFTER:

I also did a few miscellaneous pieces; port/starboard pin rails, galley shelf, quarterberth trim.

BEFORE:

AFTER:

Finally, I needed to relocate my radio. It was under the first step of the companionway ladder, and after all my efforts on that I wasn't about to put that ugly Homer job back. It was a small chunk of teak bulkhead, L-bracketed to the bottom of the ladder....radio visible, wires everywhere...really unsightly! So, I built a box for it that I will mount to the cockpit above the quarterberth. I made it so I can easily mount a marine VHF (eventually) to the bottom of it. I also cleaned up the wiring, bundled it and will use cable ties and straps to route the wiring.

I fabb'd up a little piece to mount my iPod on the right side. Here's the box with the radio and iPod installed:

Tomorrow is my lake day. Should be stunning...sunny, low 80's, unsettled minimal winds until after lunch, then north 12 kts until evening. That wind direction will allow me to sail all over the lake without a brutal beat back to the marina if I go to the north end. I've got all new hanks for my genny, so once I get everything installed, cleaned up, new hanks installed....I'll have lunch and sail the afternoon away!

Scott

When we left, we had just enough fuel to make it to San Juan. And now... we are out of fuel!

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islander
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Response Posted - 04/21/2012 : 15:26:33

Yea, Really, Take a break. Your making me tired!

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 04/21/2012 : 16:36:20

My wifes mom lives in Denton. We should be up there around Memorial Day.

Where do you want to meet so I can drop my teak off for refinishing? Can you have it done my that Monday afternoon so I can pick it up on my way home?

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/21/2012 : 20:03:13

I grew up in Denton....it's my hometown.

I'm ready for a break....really. I'm making good progress though....there's only a few more pieces on the inside I can take off and bring home...the rest I'll have to do on the boat as I don't feel like taking the bulkheads out. I can still take home the panel behind the head and the one in front of it, the small pin rail in the back of the quarterberth...that just leaves the 2 main bulkheads, the galley bulkhead, and the galley counter trim.

I need to get started on the outside stuff. I have Cetol for that. I need to make some sort of temporary companionway cover so I can bring home the crib boards and trim....I could also wait until summer when we don't get rain for weeks at a time, but I would like to be mostly done before it gets really hot.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/22/2012 : 08:01:20

Joe - do you cut the last coat of varnish or something? In my wood, I still get little rough bumps in the finish after the last coat. I am wondering how others keep that from happening? Maybe its dust in the air?

Yours looks really good - great job!

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 04/22/2012 : 11:25:56

Somebody has way way way too much time!!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/22/2012 : 19:36:00

Sand between coats. I use wet 220. Very light sanding, to smooth the bumps and surface, then wipe down. The third coat goes on like liquid glass.

I use a very bright work light, set an an angle to the piece I'm working on. This way, I can see the coat as it's applied, how thick it is, smoothness, complete coverage. It's a very fine line between too much, and runs...to too little and an uneven coat.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/22/2012 : 20:09:36

Very nice! I love the radio box particularly. Looks like steamer trunk work from the turn of the last century with all the brass corners and fittings.

Could you just fabricate a 1/4" ply hatch cover so you could bring the drop boards home? My last boat had a solid plywood hatch cover, and our C-250 has a solid plastic piece (we don't have drop boards like a C-25). The one on my SJ 21 delaminated, so I made a new one up from two pieces of door skin laminated together with epoxy. I took the whole door skin pieces down to the boat, traced the outline of the original one on it's last legs, then cut the two pieces out on my table saw. Worked out pretty well.

Edited by - delliottg on 04/22/2012 20:25:38

TCurran
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Response Posted - 04/23/2012 : 03:15:07

Great job Joe...making some of us look bad.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/23/2012 : 05:43:19

Thanks guys....I'm gonna have to modify the radio box. I did some test fitting this weekend and I don't like it under the cockpit above the quarterberth. I do like it back under the companionway ladder though. I did a test fit under the first step and it looks fantastic there...but...it's too deep....I need to cut 3" off the back so it will recess under the step enough to not be kicked. I'll get that done and then I'll share a pic when I get it mounted up.

My plan is to "try" to pick a period of time where we won't have rain for a week (kinda hard this time of year) and then cut a cheap piece of plywood to cover the opening, and also strap down a tarp over the roof and companionway. It only has to last a week.

I was looking closer at the remaining pieces of indoor teak. I can fairly easily remove the forward bulkheads. Once I take out the panel behind the head and the panel in the hanging locker, the forward bulkheads will just unscrew. So that will leave only the main bulkhead and galley bulkhead as needing to be done on the boat.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 04/23/2012 : 07:31:25

Scott,
Everything looks great! I think, once you try refinishing the few remaining pieces in place, you'll find that it really isn't that bad. Just be sure to wipe up any drips quickly!

My PO made a screen that fit into the companionway opening. I put that in place when I took the hatch boards home to finish them. Covered the companionway with a tarp for rain protection, and left it alone. That seemed to work well.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/23/2012 : 07:38:17

For the exterior wood, we used Cetol. Since you will want to drill oversize and rebed with thickened epoxy, most of teh wood can be removed, the holes epoxied, and the boat left until you get the wood refinished.

I would suggest a 1/2" drill to make the big holes, and then as small a drill as possible for resetting the wood.

You may need a helper to remove the handrails.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/29/2012 : 20:20:57

I modified the radio box so it would fit better under the ladder. It's more recessed so won't get kicked...I think it turned out good:

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 04/30/2012 : 04:04:20

ya think some of your handy work could run off a couple of slips down.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 04/30/2012 : 05:20:47

Sure, I'll help ya out if you need it....I thought you were gonna pull the boat and head to Texoma?

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 19:00:53

Hey Joe - I have the pin rails in the basement but haven't started on them for a fear of sanding. how did you sand the dowels in them? PLease tell me you didn't disassemble teh whole thing and hand sand individually.

I am soooooo not a woodworker.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 19:38:13

Man, I love seeing your teak threads. I went back through them and I couldn't catch what you're using for the interior?

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 06:03:07

Pin rails - I only sanded the top and bottom rail. I just don't have the patience to hand sand each of those little dowels. They came out really well.

I'm using Minwax Helmsman clear gloss for the interior stuff. I haven't started the exterior teak yet, but I have Cetol natural marine for that.

Interior I have left: Bulkheads, galley bulkhead, galley counter rails, storage closet bulkhead, starboard settee cushion trim, bilge covers.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 09:58:00

teak oil: interior
cetol: exterior
companionway stairs: ???
Tiller: poly

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 17:03:18

My sorely neglected, stained and dirty interior teak was well beyond teak oil. Besides, I like the honey gold color of it sanded and varnished.

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 05/27/2012 : 19:47:40

Great job. Just finished ours a few weeks ago. We were disappointed
to find out that the bulkheads and bilge covers were faux wood grain.
I sanded a little and found out that the finish was painted ontop of
a very hard epoxy paint. However, the trim on the bulkheads was teak.
Still it finished well, used Helmsman in the interior. Glad to know
Catalina started using the real thing.
John on Ms Achsa 77 FK/SR

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/27/2012 : 20:01:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JKBIXBY
 ..we were disappointed to find out that the bulkheads and bilge covers were faux wood grain.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">No, real teak veneer. Some DPO must have screwed things up. If those bulkheads were solid teak, you wouldn't have been able to buy the boat (unless you could have afforded a Valiant instead--maybe not even then)!

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JKBIXBY
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Response Posted - 05/29/2012 : 20:39:45

Yea, real plywood with faux finish. Only one door has real teak insert. When you turn the teak trim over, it's stamped C25 on most parts. However about a third of the trim is stamped C30. I guess the early models had a lot of interchangeable pieces. Makes sense, Butler probably didn't know if the 25 would be a great seller or not.
John on Ms Achsa
77 FK/SR

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