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Randalf
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Initially Posted - 08/02/2012 : 19:01:01

Hello again, gang,

A couple years (two, three?) I posted info here about a '79 TR SK Cat 25 I have that I want to either part-out or sell as-is for someone else to strip. It is sitting on a pretty good trailer on my property near Kerrville TX. I had plenty of inquiries about it when I first posted it, but I was in the Army and stationed away from home, so I never got around to stripping it down to sell the parts. I'm still in the Army, stationed in San Antonio, so I'm only home on weekends, and I'm in the midst of adding a room on the house, so I don't have a lot of time to spend taking stuff off the boat, but I would like to finally divest myself of it. I will be heading home tomorrow and will take some pictures and do an inventory and post them on Swap Meet. Just wanted to give a heads up in this forum first.

Randall

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 08/02/2012 : 21:06:45

What condition is the cabinetry in? Howard is looking for some galley cabinets I think.

What condition are the sails? What kinds of headsails do you have? I may be interested in your main and headsails.

So, put me down for cabinets and sails.

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vipermagic
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 : 06:55:21

I could probably use the hatch boards, the hatch board track, the teak around the pockets in the cockpit, if thats in good(ish) shape.

Do you have a spinnaker/pole/etc?

Every time I'm on the boat I see all kinds of things I want to get next time a boat is parted out... but I can't remember any of them!

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 : 15:32:59

I actually have two sets of hatchboards. Years ago I ordered a new set from CD and they mistakenly double shipped (and double charged). I trimmed the edges of one set so that they would fit squarely in the opening, and then put them away in my shop and used the old plywood boards to close the boat up. The second set is still in the box, but I think they got wet, so there may be some water stains on them. Neither set has been varnished or sealed.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 : 15:44:33

I'm very interested in one of those sets.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 : 19:05:20

I took some pictures of the boat and trailer, and pix of the two sets of boards. One set is still in the box and was sent to me sometime in 2004 while I was stationed in Atlanta. Time really flies, I didn't realize I'd had the boat that long. I'll enlist my wife's help in uploading the pictures on Swap Meet.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 : 19:16:05

Joe Diver, the main is the blown-out factory original, and the jib was recut for roller furling. It did come with a new looking storm jib and a reefing jib, probably about a 90%. They are both aboard my Hunter 25 at Canyon Lake, which I'm going to haul out and bring home soon.
FYI, the reason I'm out of the sailing business for now is because I got back into scuba diving in 2006 while I was stationed in Africa, so the only boat I use these days is a 19' fish and ski boat I've semi-converted to a dive boat. I also divemaster for Dive World in San Antonio when I'm not decisively engaged in adding on to my house.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 08/04/2012 : 04:10:25

Can you post some photos and prices in the swap meet. As Scott said I am interested in the inside cabinets. If it is on a trailer that could make it to Fort Worth I may be interested in the package to part out.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/04/2012 : 07:08:43

I sent email about the hatchboards, but haven't gotten a response. What is the best way to reach you?

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 08/04/2012 : 07:14:03

I'm looking for a good storm jib....interested in some scuba gear in trade? I have an extra BCD I'm not using....its a Seaquest Pro QD....XL I believe....

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 : 05:55:14

I would be interested in some of your items, winches, hatchboards, interior teak doors. sent you an email. Sam

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Jan Briede
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Response Posted - 08/06/2012 : 10:30:11

I have a 79 boat, and if you have an L-shaped dinette, I would be very interested in the table.
Thanks.
Jan

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 08/06/2012 : 11:05:02

I'm in SA!!! And I need hatchboards. Not sure if they'd fit my 89 though.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/12/2012 : 14:54:57

NautiC25,

I don't know whether the hatchboards I have will fit your boat either, but I can throw a set of them in my truck and you can try them on for size if you like. We could try to meet at the lake, or maybe just link up in town somewhere. I live near Harry Wurzbach & 410.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/12/2012 : 15:19:09

Jan, I do have the dinette layout, but not the original table, just a cheesy particle board substitute that the PO built. I only used it as a fiiler board to sleep on, and never as a table.

hewebb, I would love to wheel and deal on the whole rig. The trailer could very easily be refurbished to take you anywhere, anytime. Right now it only needs new tires to go to Dallas, the ones on it have dry rotted sitting in the yard.

vipermagic, the exterior teak hatchboard trackboards don't look so good, at least not the one on the right side. The teak trim rings are broken.

The boat is set up for a spinnaker, but the spin is gone. It does have four Lewmar single 7's.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/13/2012 : 17:48:12

NautiC25, I brought a set of hatchboards to SA if you wabt to take a look at them.

I have photos of the boat uploaded on my wife's gmail account, but we couldn't figure out how to load themm onto swap meet. Suggestions?

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/13/2012 : 19:41:07

I do it by posting the photos to a photo hosting site (like picasaweb, flickr, smugmug, skydrive, imgur) and then getting the link to the image. You can also email the photos to those who've emailed you asking about parts, I've sent you a few emails and have given you my email address on the forum.

Once you have the link to the image from your photo hosting site you can press the "insert image" button (yellow box with a black triangle) and put the link to your image between the (img) and (/img) tags (note that I changed the square brackets to parens, but you would use the square brackets).

imgur is the easiest upload option since it doesn't require an account.

It's a little crummy that you are selling the companionway boards to the most recent person to ask about them instead of the first and second...

alex

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/14/2012 : 16:25:08

Alex, I have to admit that I didn't really pay attention to who asked first, second, or third about the boards, because ultimately it will all boil down to who is willing to pay the most, and we ain't been talking about money here yet. If the first offer was for five bucks, and the third was for 200, am I honor-bound to accept the first bid? With that rule, auctions would be very brief affairs because the goods would always go to the first person to wave his hand, and the "Auction Hunters" TV series would really suck: "hey, I made first bid on that supercharged '39 Cord convertible, so it's mine for fifty dollars!!"
My line of reasoning in offering a set of boards to NautiC25 is pretty simple: he is local, and he doesn't know whether the boards I have will fit his boat. So I grabbed the set of boards that I had already trimmed to fit my boat to see if they will fit his boat properly. I figured that was a better way to do business than to take somebody's money and then ship the trimmed boards across the continent only to find that they don't fit properly on the new owner's boat.
Oh, and I don't really mind that you called me a crum, I've been an Army officer for 30 years and a Texas peace officer for 22 years, so I'm used to being called far, far worse things.
Thanks for the info on how to upload photos, the only experience I have is on the Hunter Owners site where I was able to attach pix directly to my posts. I will try again this weekend to add them when I'm home. I'm not allowed to do that at work on my Army computer, and all I have here in my San Antonio apartment is a tragic old Vaio laptop that is so sickly that I can barely surf the internet without having it lock up on me. Please be patient!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 08/14/2012 : 17:23:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Randalf
 Alex, I have to admit that I didn't really pay attention to who asked first, second or third about the boards, because ultimately it will all boil down to who is willing to pay the most, and we ain't been talking about no money here yet. Auctions would be very brief affairs if the goods always went to the first person to wave his hand, and the "Auction Hunters" TV series would be incredibly boring.
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Actually, you've made a mistake, and a serious one, in board etiquette.

The swap section is not an auction site. It will not boil down to "who will pay the most". The expected format is that you post an item and what you want for it. Then answer responses in order, first come first served. If you do not post a price, and a person responds, but then does not later like or accept your price, the next person is addressed.

This is how things are usually done. You could, of course, attempt to spark a bidding war by being up front about it, post a starting bid and go from there. But, I doubt you will get too much attention to it. I don't even know if it would be allowed.

Rather than turn Alex's issue against him and making it sound like his fault, I think you owe him an apology. He was more than vocal about wanting your item, posting multiple times about it, and trying to contact you....only to have you turn to someone else. I thought that was pretty crummy too.

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/14/2012 : 18:08:11

Gotcha, Joe, it was not my intent to breach board protocol, and it is not my intent to start a bidding war. I used the auction process merely as an analogy.
I bought my Cat25 in 2003 (I think) for $3000.00, and had it moved to a lake in Alabama to give me a weekend retreat from Atlanta. I had a great time with it while I was there, and easily got 3 grand of fun on it. Since then it has lain fallow in my yard, and is now not worth restoring. My intent is to recycle its usable parts for a reasonable price, and to get a decent price for the trailer it sits on because it is perfectly serviceable. The boards are brand new and unused, so I would like to get a price close to the retail price that I paid for them back in 2004. Since I have to assume that they have gone up in price in the last eight years, that should still make them a good deal. Correct me if I am wrong.
I think my rationale for offering my modified set of boards to a local sailor makes extraordinarily good sense, since no one risks money on something that may not work for their vessel, hence I see no need to apologize to anyone for that. I'm sorry if my auction analogy was misunderstood.
I've also explained that I am a geographic bachelor during the week with very limited internet access, so I don't have the luxury of being able to respond to everyone's posts. I apologize for that, I just assumed that there was a quick, easy way to post photos directly to this site so that I can get maximum exposure without having to repost them to individuals. I will follow Alex's advise and find a way to post photos for general consumption.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 08/14/2012 : 18:27:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Randalf
 Gotcha, Joe, it was not my intent to breach board protocol, and it is not my intent to start a bidding war. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If you're new to it, no biggie then...you simply didn't know. And it's not only this particular board...it's that way on most of the forums out there...from Harley, to Corvette, to Jeep, to Scuba....you name it...just how it's done in the for sale sections.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Randalf
 I think my rationale for offering my modified set of boards to a local sailor makes extraordinarily good sense, since no one risks money on something that may not work for their vessel, hence I see no need to apologize to anyone for that.
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Sadly, you're still missing the point. Despite "your" rationale, you still made a mistake by not honoring requests in the order they were posted. This is the misstep, the faux pas.....the "crummy" act.....and rather than apologize for your indiscretion you twist the blame or justify your actions.

Simple as that.

And just as simple...."Sorry Alex, my bad. If it falls through with Nauti they're yours" is probably all it would take. (I can't speak for Alex but he's a stand up guy)

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Randalf
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Response Posted - 08/14/2012 : 19:01:29

In 2006 I bought an ACOG TAO1 NSN riflescope on ebay. That is the only purchase I've ever made on line, and I have never sold anything on a website before, so I honestly have no clue how to go about doing it.
Yes, I am still missing the point. I do not under any circumstances want to sell anything to anyone that isn't perfect for their needs. I have trimmed 1/8" to 1/4" off the corners of the boards in question to make them fit my boat. With NautiC25, I have the opportunity to ensure that they fit absolutely perfectly on his boat before any money changes hands. Why take money from Alex then ship the boards all the way to Seattle only to find that they won't work on his vessel? Seems to me that that would cause a hell of a lot more hate & discontent on this site then me selling something in the wrong order.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 08/15/2012 : 06:00:39

How about we all take measurements of our own boards and start from there? I believe there is quite a bit of difference in the sizes between the years, so we all may be arguing for nothing. Randolph, can you take an overall measurement of them so we can all see if they will even fit our boat?

I plan to measure mine this weekend.

Edited by - NautiC25 on 08/15/2012 06:00:59

tweeet65
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Response Posted - 08/15/2012 : 16:35:12

Randalf, are there coaming compartments that can be removed. I don't have them on my 25 but would like to.

Dave

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