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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 08/08/2012 :  05:24:08  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Does this item fit the C250 2005 model.
(CD does not include the model, but that may be an error)

[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=1571"]Jib Track Cleat[/url]

Paul
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PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.


Moved up to C34 Eximius

Updated August 2015
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  06:26:53  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I guess a phone call to CD is in order, but if your jib car track is 1" I'm thinking it'd work just fine. I've always wondered though, wouldn't the centrifugal forces bend the track? Or are these made (being mostly central on the boat) for a spring line so these forces point forward?
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  06:45:20  Show Profile
What's the safe working load of the Marelon track cleat?

I might be inclined to purchase an all stainless cleat, like [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|7504|292249|312057&id=92875"]this one from Defender for $79.99.[/url] which looks [url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=1766"]to be the same one Catalina Directs sells[/url] for $126.55 (MSRP).
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  07:52:05  Show Profile
I like the Shaefer, not just for the stainless steel, but for its open throat--important for locking a dock line loop to the cleat.

I wouldn't use a track-cleat for breast lines--just for spring lines that mostly put a fore or aft force against the cleat. The stainless cleat is probably stronger than the aluminum track.
Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/08/2012 07:52:42
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  08:30:34  Show Profile
This

is the one I have and it works great. I just don't recall if the track is 1" or 1.25" wide. Sorry. I imagine the one you posted would work if it's the right width for the track. I use mine exclusively for my dock-o-matic spring line.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  09:27:50  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Paul,
We have Garhauer mid-ship's cleats on SL, I think the MSC-1 with the 1" track, but not positive, since JD's in your yard, easy to just go measure the track width. They're the same price as the Marelon ones but I'm pretty sure they're anodized aluminum. We use them all the time when docking with the Nautiduck Dock-O-Matic MKII.

http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=78

Edit: I took a closer look at the Garhauer, and their photo looks to be the identical piece in your original link, so maybe they've gone to a Marelon cleat, worth the call. I'd rather have aluminum than Marelon I think.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  10:10:29  Show Profile
I have the Marelon cleats and they work fine. There isn't an opening in the middle, but normally I run my spring lines from the aft end of the dock, around the cleat, then to the fore end of the dock (usually connected with a sheet bend to the bow line). This doesn't need or benefit from the hole.

You can also just tie spring lines to your upper shroud chainplate.

The downside of the track mounted cleats is that sheets really like to find them and fowl themselves. When I'm sailing I try to leave those cleats hidden behind a stanchion, but on last nights race my spinnaker sheet still found it's way around the cleat.
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PZell
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Response Posted - 08/08/2012 :  13:34:46  Show Profile
This is an interesting thread. I like the price difference. Installed permanent midship cleats on my C-25 long time ago and yep they sometimes catch the sheets. Sometimes we put a bungie cord from cleat to one of the shrouds and that helps some. Mainly, you must pay attention not to let your lazy sheet crawl across the deck.
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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/09/2012 :  14:47:25  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Paul, I have 2 of them on my 2003 C250. I use them for attaching my fenders and other misc stuff. They are great. I highly recommend.
You can see one of them in the pic below on the far right. I am sorry I can't remember where I bought them from.
Steve A
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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/12/2012 :  18:59:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br />I like the Shaefer, not just for the stainless steel, but for its open throat--important for locking a dock line loop to the cleat.

I wouldn't use a track-cleat for breast lines--just for spring lines that mostly put a fore or aft force against the cleat. The stainless cleat is probably stronger than the aluminum track.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If your vessel does not have a amidships cleat for the breast Line, then that is the only way to go if you ask me. The breast line should be the first line attached to the dock. Then you can do bow and stern and springs at your convenience and remove or reconfigure breast line.

I believe I have one or two extra cleats kicking around, one stainless and one aluminum. I'll take pics and swap meet them...

Sten
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