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lcharlot
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Initially Posted - 01/17/2003 : 14:30:40

"Quiet Time" is a '79 C-25 SK, with the single portside hatch into the lazarette. This hatch is all the way aft, making it pretty much impossible to reach small items that have rolled to the front of the lazarette (I have relatively short, stubby arms for my height, which makes it even more difficult). Has anyone come up with solutions to this? I am considering installing an inspection hatch, 10" x 16" size, in the front of the lazarette, vertically mounted on the bulwark between the cockpit floor and the seat, but I am concerned that there might be good reasons not to do this that I am unaware of. Would this cause a serious structural weakness to the cockpit floor or the seat? Would it be difficult or impractical to actually use a vertically mounted access port to get objects into or out of the Lazarette? I have seen only one other C-25 with an aftermarket hatch mounted this way, and the owner was not around to ask him about it.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 01/19/2003 : 03:58:45

Larry I have a simular problem with the length of arm. Here is my answer.
Things you can't see from the photo is the bar that I hang life jackets on and the self on the back side for all the small stuff that used to live at the bottom of the dumpster we call a storage area.
I purchased the hatch at West Marine for about $80 and when it is open or closed I don't think it weakens the structure. It certainly has made access much easier.
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Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
1978 #765 SK, Stnd, Dinette ~_/)~

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/19/2003 : 12:39:38

Ed,

That is one cool <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> mod! Fortunately, I can still wedge myself into the port dumpster, but I would like to do something with it to make it more usuable. Since it is sooo big, I would like to bust it up into smaller compartments.

From ideas garnered from this forum, I would like to expand the galley counter behind the sink into the lazarette creating more counter and storage space. Also, I would like to put a shelf in halfway down in the lazarette cutting the remaining space in half, then installing a door in the portside of the quarter berth to access the lower part of the lazarette.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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OJ
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Response Posted - 01/19/2003 : 17:33:27

Larry,
I installed a shelf inside my lazarette. If you survey the lazarette you'll see that you can install a 1"x2" strip of wood all the way around on fiberglass, which you can then place plywood on top of - no more lazarette diving . . .

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 01/19/2003 : 21:05:09

<center>Hey, Don!</center>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>... the port dumpster ... bust it up into smaller compartments. ... expand the galley counter behind the sink into the lazarette creating more counter and storage space. ... a shelf in halfway down in the lazarette cutting the remaining space in half, then installing a door in the portside of the quarter berth to access the lower part of the lazarette.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>I did something like that to mine! I think I mentioned it here about a year ago, but the way our archives seem to work, that's probably ancient history by now.

I broke the early C-25 port locker up into compartments as follows. As you mentioned, I extended galley storage aft about one arm's reach, and down to about the level of the cockpit floor. Below that, I made a sort of tiny "closet" for the quarterberth, with it's floor level with the matress platform. Below that "closet" I installed a bladder type fresh water tank. Aft of that "closet", about level with the top of the matress, I installed a 12-gal. permanent fuel tank in its own sealed and vented box. (The water tank compartment extends under the fuel tank comparment.) The aft end of the fuel tank box is about even with the forward end of the existing cockpit locker hatch cover. I cut away the original fuel tank shelf, and in its place built a smaller plywood and epoxy shelf which supports a group 24 cranking battery in a box.

I can now reach the entire interior of the remaining port cockpit locker without crawling down into it.

That's a broad overview of a project that was a lot of work. Let me know if anybody has specific questions about the boring details.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

-- Leon Sisson

Footnote added later for Ed about port/stbd balance. My C-25 (a 1979 swing keel pop-top dinette model) floats pretty darn level with all that stuff I added plus a 10HP elec start long shaft outboard to port. Under the stbd settee I installed two group 27 flooded batteries, and a non-stock 16-gal. water tank. My new electrical center is just aft of that stbd settee, and adds a surprising amount of weight too. (Copper is heavy!<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>) If the balance hadn't worked out so well, the cranking battery could have been moved to fine tune. Obviously, with 12 gals. fuel and maybe 15 gals. water tankage in the port locker, liquid levels will affect balance some. When I was patting myself on the back for the boat balancing, the water tanks were full, and the fuel tank about 1/2 full. (Holding tank on centerline, so no P/S effect there.)

-- Leon

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 01/20/2003 : 00:34:54

Thank you Don. I can still get into the lazarett also, it's the getting out that I have trouble with. I like Leon's additions and will be starting the moving of the electric panel so that I can put in a shelf behind the galley sink. I can't do the water tank or increase the fuel capacity for fear of tipping the boat to port. I added a marine stove/oven last year and with the dinett interior I am already fighting a port over balance. I have thought that the area just under the quarter berth would work for me to add more water capacity. I do like the idea of access from the quarter berth to the lazarett. The problem with all this storage space is all the stuff that we carry and honestly don't need. Just like getting a bigger garage, renting storage, putting in a shed, etc.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
1978 #765 SK, Stnd, Dinette ~_/)~

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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/20/2003 : 01:11:34

I havent'tried getting into the lazarette, I have a 6 year old to do that.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Cat 25 86'
FK/SR _/)

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 01/20/2003 : 20:14:29

Matt, I have seen you and no offense intended, send the 6 year old down but tie a rope around his waist first.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
1978 #765 SK, Stnd, Dinette ~_/)~

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/20/2003 : 20:28:55

My kids(girls, 8 and 12) would rather abandon ship, than dive into the dark netherworlds of the portside dumpster!

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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