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hinmo
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Initially Posted - 10/21/2012 : 17:44:58

Yes, I've used the search feature....yet, I am not getting specific hits on what is the best alternatives for interior cushions. The Admiral is insisting we replace or cover the settee 4 cushions (2 seat and 2 back rest)this offseason. A local seamstress is on tap to give us qoute for recovering, but I am expecting 1500$ or more just to recover.

What are the alternatives? I don't see any on CatDirect or Ebay....any options?

Thanks

(PS - there are other things I would rather spend a couple K on!)

"Kukla" '83 FK,SR

Edited by - hinmo on 10/21/2012 17:45:56

Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/21/2012 : 19:46:33

We used an auto re-upholstery shop that has also done work for boats. This was in about 2000, but the cost per cushion was under $170 for new foam (thicker than standard on the seat bottoms and berths), Sunbrella upholstery fabric (not their canvas), and a 1" layer of fiber matting on the tops of each seat bottom and berth cushion. We loved the results--Voyager Bruce presumably still has them.

Check around.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 10/21/2012 : 20:30:37

Voyager Bruce loves them and treats them with TLC.
They are constructed top notch, and are very very comfy for catnaps and overnights.
I started out using an air mattress in the cabin, but don't anymore - I simply use a few bed sheets during the heat of summer, and a sleeping bag in cooler weather.

For stains or general soil, I use Resolve rug shampoo and a stiff brush and Shout for tough stains.

The cushions are some of the best additions to Passage, aside from the LED interior lights.

Edited by - Voyager on 10/21/2012 20:31:04

hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 03:45:40

Do either of you have the name/number of that auto re-upholstery shop. CT is not a bad drive and I have relatives I should be visiting this off-season.

And yes, I can check local auto re-upholstery shops in the New Bedford-Providence region.

Thanks

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Kim Luckner
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 05:52:33

In 2009 I paid about $800 to have my 12 cushions (4 for the dinette, 1 on top of the table, 3 for the "vee" berth, 2 for the strbd. side settee & 2 for the quarter berth) recovered in marine grade vinyl at a local car upholstery shop. The original foam was brought back to life with a steaming. The vinyl may not be as comfortable as cloth but it cleans up really easy.

For new I talked with Jane at http://www.newjsi.com/ before I looked into recovering. She offered "Choices are 3" or 4" foam, Grade A or B.
Fabrics for practicality are Marine Grade Vinyl or Sunbrella Exterior Grade.
Prices range from $1748- 2246 depending on the choices above. Other fabrics are available at more cost." Terrific lady and I think they had all the patterns for our Catalina 25.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 07:33:31

Has anyone tried making the interior cushions out of vinyl, and then making washable covers for them? With 3 kids, a dog, and a few leaks, somethign machine washable would be good, but I wouldn't want to lose sailing days to laundry days.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 08:47:31

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hinmo
 Yes, I've used the search feature....yet, I am not getting specific hits on what is the best alternatives for interior cushions. The Admiral is insisting we replace or cover the settee 4 cushions (2 seat and 2 back rest)this offseason. A local seamstress is on tap to give us qoute for recovering, but I am expecting 1500$ or more just to recover.

What are the alternatives? I don't see any on CatDirect or Ebay....any options?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

We did new foam, fabric, and seamstress work for our C-25 dinette (everything but the quarterberth) for not much more money.

We bought the foam and hired the seamstress through the same shop ("Friendly Foam" in Seattle). They didn't care if I supplied the fabric or bought it through them, and gave me the raw yardage that they required. I found Sunbrella furniture fabric in a color and pattern that we liked for about $300 at Sailrite (there was a sale and a discount on the color that brought the price down by over $200). We bought enough material to make quarterberth cushions later, so we could have spent less here. The bottoms and backs of the cushions are a gray vinyl that is easy to clean.

Foam for everything but the quarterberth was around $500. The old foam was gross, this was well worth it.

Seamstress fees came to about $1100 (going by memory) for everything but the quarterberth. I think we had 10 cushions made: 3 for the v-berth, 5 for the dinette, and 2 long ones for the settee.

So we replaced more (foam in addition to fabric) and did about twice as many cushions as you are talking about for only a little more money. I'm sure we could have done it even cheaper if I'd found a seamstress myself instead of going through the foam shop.

I got quoted from online sources that were quite a bit more. I don't think that stock cushions are available from anyone.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 09:02:48

Cushions for the C25 are now custom made by Catalina Yachts and are expensive. I got a quote just for the V-berth and it was $942.

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apiratelooksat40
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 09:09:53

Alex,

Do you happen to remember the raw yardage number? My wife, while not necessarily a seamstress, has been an avid quilter, clothes, and curtain maker for years. We're hoping that with our intact, but stained-holey-dry-rotting, cushion covers as a template along with her high-end machine that doing these ourselves will be a beneficial dead-of-winter project. The foam seems in reasonable condition, so my fingers are crossed.

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glen
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 11:05:57

Go for it, it sounds like she knows what she is doing. One suggestion is do not get cheap with the material. The “Sunbrella” fabric that Alex purchased is a quality product, and should hold up well for him. You don’t want to put in all that effort, and find the fabric quality is cr#p. Being this is your first major upholstery project, give yourself plenty of time, don’t rush, and send us pictures of your finished masterpiece

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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 11:26:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hinmo
 Do either of you have the name/number of that auto re-upholstery shop.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">It's [url="http://www.royalautointeriors.com/"]Royal Auto Interiors[/url] in Norwalk, CT--their number and address are in the website. I worked with Leon there--he might not remember me from 12 years ago... I took my 12 old cushions to them to use as patterns.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 10/22/2012 : 15:46:45

We bought 18 yards of Sunbrella Galaxy Dupoine. I think we used 12 for the cushions that were made (everything but the QB). We did the bottoms of the cushions with a grey vinyl and bought a smaller amount of that, but I don't have the paperwork saying what quantity we did buy. Our seamstress was good about not having a lot of scraps.

There are photos here:
http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Sailing/Lutra-April-2012/22584661_fMwbGt#!i=1807892699&k=PjSDxFb&lb=1&s=XL

We kept it simple and didn't have buttons or piping installed. That was by choice, we just liked the cleaner look.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 10/23/2012 : 05:22:57

There is no easy way to replace cushions. I had purchased a "good condition" used set, but they were just as bad as the ones I was replacing. During the winter between 2010 and 2011 I finally bit the bullet and replaced (most foam and all cover) all my cushions. I used a shop on Long Island that was recommended by John Gisondi on this forum. They were expensive (more than I wanted to spend) -- BUT -- well worth it as they look great (read, impresses guests and may help on the eventual re-sell) and more importantly have dramatically improved "livability" on board. Before the boat was used much like a day-sailor with the interior used to store stuff. Now we use the boat's interior. For what it's worth, I would find a reputable, marine friendly upholsterer, select a fabric, and based on your budget where-with-all, whittle away over a few years if you can not do everything at once.

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hinmo
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Response Posted - 10/27/2012 : 05:48:22

got a couple quotes yesterday for the 4 cushions in the main salon (seats and backs). Labor was between 550-650, fabric was between 8-10 yards. So for those four recovered I will be around $1000 depending on fabric quality..

its a BOAT: Break out another thousand

Edited by - hinmo on 10/27/2012 05:48:49

DrScow
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Response Posted - 11/01/2012 : 12:52:30

Has anyone come across a close cell foam or pad instead of cloth covered??
Might be cheaper and better suited for marine conditions.
thanks

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 11/01/2012 : 15:54:54

Any foam shop could order and cut you a closed cell pad to shape and size. It isn't real pretty or comfortable, but it would work just fine.

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glen
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Response Posted - 11/02/2012 : 09:17:57

These are pretty (expensive) www.bottomsiders.com/
I have closed cell cockpit cushions I covered myself. I used a mesh material called “Phifertex” for the covers. This system allows you to just shake them if they get wet, and they shed all the rain. One thing you need to know is the buoyant types of closed cell foams are very dense and are not as soft as other foams (there is a product called “Dryfast” which is sort of a flow through configuration, but this one is not buoyant, it is however much more cushy) Also closed cell foams sell for a higher cost than your standard open cells

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 11/11/2012 : 17:36:12

I now own a power boat also, (yes I know) and I am in the process of redoing the interior at this time. I am sewing all new vinyl and it is looking great! It is easy. We bought the vinyl at JoAnn and used a 60% off coupon found on the internet. We saved $400.00 on the material. I have been pondering re-covering the cushions for the 0029 for quite a few years new and finding the right material seems to be the hardest part.
I would recommend sewing them yourself. It’s easy and, believe it or not, fun. I also sewed two sails as well!
Bought the foam off ebay.

Edited by - Happy D on 11/11/2012 17:38:37

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