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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 11/26/2012 :  10:13:44  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Alex,

That is great info. It allows all considering sails to compare the sail cloth being offered against the costs being quoted. if someone else is considering also buying sails at this time and is being quoted the same costs as you but then finds out that the sail they are being quoted is out of Challenge Performance sail cloth, well then that would probably be the wrong way to go and they would be better off going your route.

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szymek
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Response Posted - 11/26/2012 :  21:10:34  Show Profile
I've order my new mainsail today.

First thing i need to say is that CD customer service simply blows my mind - I have spent an hour on the phone going through the order and having them explain all the details. Those guys are amazing!

In terms of going with partial battens (2 full and 2 partial) and full battens seems to be all over the place. But most definitely partial sail is for racers as it gives a lot better control of the sail and full batten is for sailors that enjoy cruising.

Yes I've confirmed that the cloth is Challenge High Modulus. This seems to be the best value for the buck.

At the end I ordered the full batten with loose foot. This seems to be good all around sail giving better shape, especially in lighter air conditions. Information on this forum and web is amazing, but I've decided to try something totally different as I currently have mainsail with partial battens and bolt rope foot. Maybe it won't be good comparison as the original sail is quite old and most definitely overdue for replacement.

At the end with shipping I ended up paying $768 with the promo that they had for last few days.

I'm really looking forward to my new mainsail!

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 11/27/2012 :  15:04:07  Show Profile
Well done.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 11/27/2012 :  19:36:12  Show Profile
Now, how is your out-haul current rigged? You might want/need an upgrade.

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szymek
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Response Posted - 11/27/2012 :  19:42:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br />Now, how is your out-haul current rigged? You might want/need an upgrade.
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I already thought about that. I am getting the the four part out haul kit from CD. And most likely I will get the single line reefing kit as well.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 11/27/2012 :  19:51:16  Show Profile
You do not need a 4:1 with a loose foot. 2:1 is plenty, too much purchase and you will stretch out the foot.

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szymek
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Response Posted - 11/27/2012 :  21:31:51  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pastmember</i>
<br />You do not need a 4:1 with a loose foot. 2:1 is plenty, too much purchase and you will stretch out the foot.
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oh that might be too much? I was thinking of getting the kit that CD offers and leading it to the mast, deck organizer, and clutch. I want to have all lines leading to cockpit for ease of handling.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/28/2012 :  08:05:54  Show Profile
I have a 4:1 outhaul and even then it still requires some effort to tension it when the main is under load.


Interestingly, Catalina direct sells an internal 8:1 outhaul for the C25.

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cshaw
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Response Posted - 11/28/2012 :  09:43:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by szymek</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by pastmember</i>
<br />You do not need a 4:1 with a loose foot. 2:1 is plenty, too much purchase and you will stretch out the foot.
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oh that might be too much? I was thinking of getting the kit that CD offers and leading it to the mast, deck organizer, and clutch. I want to have all lines leading to cockpit for ease of handling.
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I have a loosefooted main and use 4:1 and find its just right for me. Yes, you can over tension the foot if you don't loook at the sail as you tension the outhaul, but you should be looking at the sails as you make any adjustment to vang, downhaul, or outhaul to get the right shape. I like the 4:1 because it always only takes a moderate pull to adjust things, so even my 6 yr old grandson or my wife can easily adjust things. If you have the mainsheet tensioned, there can be a lot of friction on the clew slide inside the boom, so always ease the mainsheet a bit when trying to adjust the outhaul in or out, then re-trim the main afterwards.

Cheers!

Chuck


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