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putzmeister
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Initially Posted - 12/08/2012 : 18:47:02

How do you mangage the aft end of your furling line? I'm considering this Harken 238 for the outside of the coaming.

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Response Posted - 12/08/2012 : 19:17:24

Should work ok. I have been looking at that same concept for the furler on our C250. I typically use the port side winch to furl the sail while keeping tension on the jib sheet. If the cam cleat were in front of the winch, that would make it very neat.

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Response Posted - 12/08/2012 : 20:54:06

That is the same setup I use. The PO had it that way. Works well

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Response Posted - 12/08/2012 : 21:26:51

I've never used a winch to furl, but I do use a cam cleat.

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Response Posted - 12/08/2012 : 21:57:01

Buy the Ronstan instead of the Harken - it's just as good and less expensive.

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Response Posted - 12/09/2012 : 07:40:25

I use this Harken thing-a-ma-gigy:

Works very well, you only need to pull on the furling line slightly to get it to cleat.

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Response Posted - 12/09/2012 : 12:56:08

Once again thanks to Passage's DPO there is a furler, and both a small horned cleat and a cam cleat for the furling line. The latter is a simple pair of jaws that grab the line and allows for a quick release.
On occasion the line will kink and get hung up but a flip of the line will unkink it in a hurry.

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Response Posted - 12/09/2012 : 18:46:40

I use the exact same setup as Don. I may have gotten the idea from him. Works great, and keeps the line out of the way.

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Response Posted - 12/10/2012 : 07:07:55

I've used that setup, and I've used the cam cleat separate from the bullseye, with the bullseye a little more forward on the deck. The bullseye farther away makes it easier to release the line without it catching back in the cam. You lay the line over to one side.

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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 07:10:32

Can you give me more info on this thingy. Bigger picture, link to buy etc.

My wife is tiny. When she tries to furl the jib she would like a method to temporarily hold the line while she goes for her next "bite".

Thanks.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 I use this Harken thing-a-ma-gigy:

Works very well, you only need to pull on the furling line slightly to get it to cleat.
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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 07:50:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Can you give me more info on this thingy. Bigger picture, link to buy etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I think it is this block:

[url="http://www.svendsensmarine.com/Harken_40mm_Carbo_Airblock_p/hk-2645.htm"]Harken Carbo Airblock[/url]

Attached to pulpit with this:

[url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=339234&langId=-1&searchKeyword=339234"]Stanchion mount base[/url]

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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 08:01:41

Thanks for this.

What you have is exactly what I have from another (cheaper) manufacturer - but without the stanchion mount. Mine is just shackled to the stanchion base..

We have only used it on one sail and found that the line would always cleat itself when trying to unfurl because the unit is not rigidly attached to the stanchion.
It was then almost impossible to uncleat because again, the unit is not rigidly attached to the stanchion.

Does the stanchion mount solve those issues?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Can you give me more info on this thingy. Bigger picture, link to buy etc.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I think it is this block:

[url="http://www.svendsensmarine.com/Harken_40mm_Carbo_Airblock_p/hk-2645.htm"]Harken Carbo Airblock[/url]

Attached to pulpit with this:

[url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=339234&langId=-1&searchKeyword=339234"]Stanchion mount base[/url]
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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 08:18:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">We have only used it on one sail and found that the line would always cleat itself when trying to unfurl because the unit is not rigidly attached to the stanchion.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I have not had this problem, but I'm not sure if it is because of the mount. My experience has been that the line won't cleat until you pull it into the cam.

Here is a couple of better photos:

I only use the horn cleat when the boat is tied up at the dock so that it cannot unfurl unexpectedly.

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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 09:07:08

In your setup, is the cam cleat essentially fixed in that position?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">We have only used it on one sail and found that the line would always cleat itself when trying to unfurl because the unit is not rigidly attached to the stanchion.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I have not had this problem, but I'm not sure if it is because of the mount. My experience has been that the line won't cleat until you pull it into the cam.

Here is a couple of better photos:

I only use the horn cleat when the boat is tied up at the dock so that it cannot unfurl unexpectedly.

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Response Posted - 12/12/2012 : 09:38:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">In your setup, is the cam cleat essentially fixed in that position?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The angle of the cam cleat, relative to the block, can be adjusted. However, you have to take the assembly apart. Once you set the angle, it's fixed. If I understand your question correctly.

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Response Posted - 12/15/2012 : 07:05:51

[quote]Originally posted by dlucier

I like the way Don keeps the furling line from running past the coaming - eliminating a trip hazard I have now. The fairleads are minimally intrusive. I would still like to incorporate a camcleat somehow. I'm a big believer in securing rigging lines quickly - with just a tug (or throw of a clutch handle.)

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