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asduffy
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 14:15:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ChipG
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I have spent over 20 years racing and riding motorcycles <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Sorry, off topic, but what do you ride/race?
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I raced supercross for 10 years, all Suzuki, 2 stroke 80cc and 125cc class. Raced a 1979 Husqvarna 250 cr in the over the hill class for a couple of years. street bikes were 1979 RD400 (set up for track), Katana 600, Ducati Monster 900, Suzuki SV1000 (set up for track) I have owned and ridden many more bikes. Worked for BMW, Triumph, Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki.

I learned all I knew from a friend Wade starting at 13.

http://www.wadeboyd.com/PortalVBVS/DesktopDefault.aspx

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ChipG
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 19:59:50

Awesome. I have about the same amout of seat time as you. Had many myself, but this is my current ride:

Back to the topic(just had to give a nod to a fellow rider

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 20:13:31

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ChipG
 Awesome. I have about the same amout of seat time as you. Had many myself, but this is my current ride:

Back to the topic(just had to give a nod to a fellow rider

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That's the same bike my brother has. It's bad$#%.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 20:18:37

My bike is a Trek... And you guys make fun of me for my ride on the water!

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 21:09:24

Dave,

I also have a Trek...and a Jamis but I go faster on this: A custom built Barcroft Dakota (Frame #2).

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 01/24/2013 : 21:43:05

I just make my own.

Before paint:

After and in use:

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/25/2013 : 04:51:18

So, what was the original topic of this posting ? How did we get onto motorcycles and bicycles ?

Going back aways, we were talking about solar panels. You then mentioned need to replace instruments. In regards to the depthfinder, you can contact the mfr for support getting it repaired but that would require you to send back the gage and transducer for an assessment. Cost is likely to be between $100 - $200. Many have replaced the unit altogether. You can find a depthfinder with a similar footprint to the depthfinder bulkhead hole that presently exists...the transducer would also need replacement and for depthfinders, the transducers are generally of the thru-hull design. Other have gone the fishfinder route and utilizing a transducer that can be installed in-hull utilizing a glob of a toilet bowl wax ring purchased from Home Depot or similar store. The glob of wax serves to make good contact with no air bubbles between the transducer and hull bottom. On my installation, my Humminbird fishfinder directions indicated that mounting the transducer in-hull vs thru hull provides same depth accuracy but signal strength reduces range of the fishfinder down to about 400 ft vs 1000 ft. That;s okay by me.

I have more photos/details of the install on my website but here is one photo of my fishfinder mounted utilizing a RAM Swing Arm. Long term performance has been great. Going on 7+ years and in-hull transducer has not missed a beat. By the way, it may not be apparent just how the starboard is attached to the bulkhead from my photo. Those bolts are inside the perimeter of original depthfinder bulkhead hole. Tightening the bolts, friction and the contour of the starboard support against the bulkhead edge holds the starboard securely in place. A bead of 3M 4200 was used on the starboard circular cover outer perimeter installed from the cockpit side of the bulkhead held by the bolts to the starboard inner support panel. No holes were made thru the companionway bulkhead. The swing arm is attached only to the starboard inner support panel.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 01/25/2013 : 09:56:17

That is a nice install. I used a Garmin Fish Finder and mounted it to the little eyebrow pieces of teak that are next to the companionway:

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asduffy
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Response Posted - 01/25/2013 : 15:15:10

I love it when people get off topic, we get to find stuf out about each other. Alex, I was looking at your blog when first emailed you. You have am impressive ability to build bikes. Very interesting. I like the ideas for mounting stuff.

Chip, I don't have a ride at the moment. I am turning 40 next week and feel that I am lucky to have made it this far. I am thinking about quitting street bikes. I have spent that last 5 years in hospitals with all my friends, watching them heal and realizing that they will never walk again let alone ride. I am thinking of making a full switch to sailing and bicycles. Because that is much safer right? LOL. Well a bit.

Well plans have changed, I am bring the boat down to Lake Union. Everett is just to far away. So I am thinking of doing this tomorrow, in the cold rain. Everett to Lake Union, fun! right?

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 01/25/2013 : 18:16:48

Yes, do it tomorrow and then you can do Goose Bumps on Sunday!

Your old slip is actually available, but may not fit a 25' boat (it was fairly tight sometimes with the Luger 21'). I think it's still about the cheapest moorage on Lake Union.

Thanks for the nice comments on my bikes. I try to do my best.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/25/2013 : 20:33:59

Alex: Obviously I didn't build mine (based on the brand name mentioned)--I'm impressed! I have two Trek hybrids (for me and anyone who wants to ride around Mystic)--they have some similarities, except for the dropped handlebars. (My and my lady's backs and necks are better served somewhat more upright.) However, nice work!

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 01/26/2013 : 08:27:22

I do upright bikes too, this is my wife's:

I made the front (the unpainted bits), the rear is a Soma Buena Vista. The whole bike is white again, but I don't have any photos of it in it's finished state. The rack was probably the most work:

It's just a hobby. As with sailing it's hard to justify it on any fiscal grounds, but I enjoy the process and I've gotten picky enough about minuete little details of bicycles to prefer building and riding ones of my design. At the same time I like bikes of pretty much any sort as long as folks are riding them and do own a few commercial bikes (Burley tandem, Brompton folding bike for the boat, Seven and Rocky Mountain mountain bikes).

My friends who know me well keep asking when I'm going to make my own sailboat... That seems unlikely, but I might like to make a small sailing dinghy sometime. I did make a kayak once: http://alexwetmore.org/?cat=342

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/26/2013 : 14:08:06

It's easy to pop on and off the Fish Finder and GPS when putting the boat away. The only exterior modifications are 5 tiny bolt holes (3 for the depth, 2 for the GPS) that would be easy to patch if we switched to a different method.

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I mounted mine to the backside of the lower hatch board. This keeps it mounted all the time and out of the weather when I'm not using it.

When I go sailing I just install the board inside out and plug in the power and I'm ready to go.

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asduffy
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Response Posted - 02/03/2013 : 11:08:26

So we finally got the boat down to Lake Union yesterday. We left Everett with a couple hundred feet of visibility the fog was so dense and we have never been in this area. Scary! but we just motored slowly and kept a close eye on the GPS and looked out for other boats. We thought the trip would take about 5-6 hrs, 5 knots for 25 miles. But the GPS kept telling me that I was doing 7+ knots, I didn't believe it until we finished the trip in 3 hrs. Must have had a good curent :) Here is a couple of pics to enjoy of our trip.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111077086914014912849/February32013?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 02/03/2013 : 11:57:39

Nice trip. We were out trying to sail yesterday too (light winds and forecast for sun had me excited to try out a spinnaker that I'd not flown). The wind really died off around 1:30pm, just after we launched the spinnaker. We played around with light air sailing until we noticed a ferry heading towards us, so we dropped the sails and motored back to Shilshole.

I had a similar experience to yours coming down from the north end when we bought our Pearson and were bringing it home from Bellingham. We planned on staying in Edmonds (a mix of not having Shilshole moorage starting for another day, wanting to check out the Edmonds marina, and, and because it was a way to shorten a long day). Edmonds was totally full, the weather was still nice, and we made it from there to Shilshole in much less time than we expected.

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asduffy
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Response Posted - 02/13/2013 : 10:46:02

BTW Alex, just wanted to say, nice kayak! Looks like fun.

So we have gone thru a lot of the boat and I will update the album as I go. I found a older colman 2 burner stove at goodwill and took it apart and cleaned it and turned the controles around so the propane line attaches from the front instead of the side so I could mout it. Turned out really nice and I like the safety of keeping all the propane in a outside locker unless I am cooking. It is screwed down to the old cutting board so it is secure. The older colmane stoves are nice, I like them, the flame controle is amazing and it boils water in a couple of minutes. Hotter than my home stove. Also got a Dickinson's sea-bbq of the back of the boat that is amazing. Then we went to goodwill and created a 'kitchen'... a rubber-ware bin with all my kitchen stuff in it with a cutting board on top.

We have also started our sleeping situation, a inflatable bed (very comfortable) that gives us a full queen size, we have all the fitted sheets for it and pillows and blankets. Should be very comfortable. The other nice thing about it is I can pull it out and hose it down and clean it.

Went and got a 50' 30 amp shore power cable, a new 30amp receptacle (the old one had no lid and was corroded) and a new GFIC plug to replace the old plug i the cabin, the electrical is in far better shape than I thought. I now have the on-board charger topping of the house batteries :) I need to go thought the ancor light at the top of the mast and spreader lights. they both don't work so I am wondering if it is light bulbs or a electrical issue. But that is the only electrical issue it has.

I have realized that someone at some point used two of the three thru hulls for speed and depth sounder. When I pull the boat, both of those will be removed and returned to there proper use, fresh water drain and thru hull for the head intake. I have no intrest in knowing how fast I am going other that overall speed that my gps tells me and the depth sounder that I will be getting is mounted insid the hull with wax.

I am concerned about the fule locker being open to the back of the electrical panel. So my first big project is going to be separating the two. I will show my plans for that and final project is some pics. My friend is giving me a 20 gal fule tank.

The fresh water system needs help, it is working, but the tank has some cracking in it that I know how to fix and the water lines are in need of replacement.

https://picasaweb.google.com/111077086914014912849/1977Catalina25?authuser=0&feat=directlink

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 02/13/2013 : 11:22:53

I had to replace the water lines on Lutra as well. I also put a cleanout in the top of the water tank and scrubbed it out well. The faucets also needed overhauling (there is a $20 kit for that). It was a little work but we had a basically new water system.

If your 30amp cable is returnable I could probably sell you one of mine for half price. Somehow I've ended up with 3 of them. I think one goes to the new owner of the Catalina 25 (though we never used the AC system on that boat), but I don't need two for myself.

Our 1984 C-25 had a separate fuel locker for the fuel tank.

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asduffy
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Response Posted - 02/13/2013 : 22:34:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by awetmore
 I had to replace the water lines on Lutra as well. I also put a cleanout in the top of the water tank and scrubbed it out well. The faucets also needed overhauling (there is a $20 kit for that). It was a little work but we had a basically new water system.

If your 30amp cable is returnable I could probably sell you one of mine for half price. Somehow I've ended up with 3 of them. I think one goes to the new owner of the Catalina 25 (though we never used the AC system on that boat), but I don't need two for myself.

Our 1984 C-25 had a separate fuel locker for the fuel tank.
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LOL, that is the one thing I can't return, thanks for the offer. It's all good though. I had to make sure that the 30 amp system was solid on that boat as it's the only way I have of charging the batteries right now and I wanted to feel comfortable leaving the boat plugged in while I wasn't there.

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