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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/05/2013 :  13:45:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />...When I purchased my first sailboat, my knowledge of Windex was that it is something that is blue and used to clean the boat's windows, uh, I mean, portlights.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...and I doubt a new C-25 came with one installed unless you got the commissioning dealer to do it for you.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 02/05/2013 :  13:53:57  Show Profile
&lt;&lt; "plumb bow" or Proud bow &gt;&gt;

OK .. that's what you call it... A plum bow.. that makes sense, like dropping a plumb line.

Yepper.. those reverse-raked bows don't make any sense.Like you said.. looks like a pitch pole to me.. like an early hobie design.

Come to think of it.. I guess it would allow it to slice back up if it did submarine.

Thank you and sorry about the hyperjack.


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Response Posted - 02/05/2013 :  21:14:35  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />As someone who wasn't born into sailing and had to learn it on my own, I'm not finding the humor. When I purchased my first sailboat, my knowledge of Windex was that it is something that is blue and used to clean the boat's windows, uh, I mean, portlights.
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While there is some useful info there, I made it to the windex part before I burst out laughing, for the same reason. There is no description of what a windex is or does. I could just see a newbie putting a bottle of windex up there and looking at it for guidance. But my wife thought a wind generator was something you could turn on to make wind.

Sailing is simple with a decent understanding of physics. But I guess they don't teach that anymore.

Sten

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 02/05/2013 :  21:25:52  Show Profile
I think they are both well-written, concise summaries that beginners can get their hands around pretty easily. Since the vast majority of Mac customers are newbies, Macgregor is doing their customers a service by providing that documentation.

I think we should be encouraging more people to get into sailing, not making fun of them. My father didn't have the patience for sailboats so I was on my own when I took up the hobby. The stuff I read at the start wasn't that different from those links, and it was enough to get me going on a rented sailing dinghy. Lots of us weren't born into it, and we started pretty much where the Mac documentation starts.

I had loads of physics in college and graduate school, and I can tell you that it is no substitute for a practical tutorial on sailing. After you've done some sailing you can look back on it and see how the physics principles apply. But I suspect you'd be just as cynical if a newbie told you "I don't need sailing lessons - I had physics in college!"
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />While there is some useful info there, I made it to the windex part before I burst out laughing, for the same reason. There is no description of what a windex is or does. I could just see a newbie putting a bottle of windex up there and looking at it for guidance...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I don't think people are really that dumb. Typing "sailboat windex" into Google gives the answer in two seconds.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/05/2013 :  22:26:17  Show Profile
Ok, what about the wind generator? LOL! Sailing was pretty obvious to me. Wind on the nose, no go. Wind on the side, or er, beam = go. Wind behind = go... For me it was pure logic. Now figuring out the rabbit around the tree and thru the hole bowline took a few tries.

Sten

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/06/2013 :  08:07:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />Sailing was pretty obvious to me. Wind on the nose, no go. Wind on the side, or er, beam = go...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Ya, but wind 45 deg. off the bow = go forward... That's a little spooky!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 02/06/2013 :  14:36:27  Show Profile
Funny, I never see those motor macs on the water.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/06/2013 :  19:25:30  Show Profile
Now you can buy a Chinese version... Hilarious!

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/411248742/Hison_26ft_Sailboat.html

sten

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 02/06/2013 :  20:45:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by PCP777</i>
<br />Funny, I never see those motor macs on the water.
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Just something wrong with this picture... [url="http://sailingtexas.com/201201/smacgregor26x176.html"]26X[/url]

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 02/06/2013 :  21:09:47  Show Profile
I saw this over on Sailnet. Maybe MacGregor will make a sailing adapter kit for it:

[url="http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/outdoors/watersports/hottug-hot-tub-tug-boat.asp"]Hot Tug[/url]

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