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RichardG
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Response Posted - 01/25/2003 : 01:30:48

"Long live the curtain burner and 2-stroke!"

...although KTwomey's Century looks good in there.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 01/25/2003 : 13:40:08

The old pressure stoves are fine if you keep them in good nick. If you know how to pre heat them properly and you don't mind the wait for anything hot. Here in Puget Sound there is a lot of good claming and crabing to to mention the all year salmon runs. Its just impossible to heat up a bog pot of boiling water for cooking the crabs with the old stove. Once converted the old stove still looks like the original but can heat up water of anything else in 1/10 of the time. The canister of gas can be mounted remote to eliminate the fear of vapors and there is no messing about trying to refill the old stove with fuel. I know you just cant convince some people and the old stove idea is their choice but as previously posted. There are more accidents and injuries and boat fires caused by the alcohol stove than any other(Boat US).

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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jsummerfield
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Response Posted - 01/25/2003 : 19:02:51

Use caution the propane or any fuel stored in the boat or cockpit. A propane shutoff valve may not be enough. I used a small propane grill at the dock one then put the gear away. I stored one of the small propane cans in the cockpit locker with the outboard fuel. I did not return for about a month. When I checked the propane can the bottom had rusted out. Salt laden air is a likely culprit as the boat was moored in a brackish water marina at the edge of Galveston Bay.

Having issued the fuel caution, I especially like the idea of a microwave on top with a propane stove on a slide-out shelf. I will also want the rail-mount BBQ grill but not for my morning coffee.

John

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 00:22:37

This set up works very well. The propane tank is in the PVC pipe. It is a close fit and slides out for refills. Since this picture was taken I have run the supply hose thru the back of the cockpit combing and not the vent. I have also T-ed the supply hose to the Magma grill. No more little bottles, no more propane stored in the confines of the boat, and it lasts a long time.
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Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
1978 #765 SK, Stnd, Dinette ~_/)~

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luckystar
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 01:25:43

I had originally taken my curtain burner that was in need of refit anyway, and converted to propane with the aforementioned "coleman transplant". It worked fine for a little while, the knobs kept falling off and I never really felt too comfortable with propane in the cabin and decided not to hassle with mounting a tank or extending a line out into the cockpit. So I yanked it and installed a microwave and never looked back. I'm like many here and mainly day sail, cook on magma out and micro in dock. It's only 600watt that cost $45 and can be operated (someday) from an inverter for heating small quick things like soup or the day sailor's beloved dinty moore stew (mmm, ugh). I mounted a premade cutting board from kmart with velcro to the top, which allows me to clean after cutting meats and stuff. I installed a new outlet in the back of the old stove well (GFCI) to accomodate it and the coffee maker better. Like I said, I've never looked back and haven't missed it!! If I ever find a micro that will fit under the old stove notch there to the left, I'll put a proper shelf/counter to cover it, giving me more counter/food prep space. Good luck to all which ever way to go! 
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Patrick Burnett, Little Rock, AR
S/V Lucky Star #2707 1982 SK/SR

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 02:06:57

"So I yanked it and installed a microwave and never looked back. I'm like many here and mainly day sail..."

I installed a microwave(on top of the stove) last spring and didn't use my alcohol stove at all the entire season. This spring I'm going to do what you did and remove the stove entirely and install the microwave in it's place.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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ksaum
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 : 22:50:35

Doug,
Thanks for the pictures on your one-burner butane stove modification. It appears that you improved on the situation, and not just replaced the old stove, by including storage for utenzils under the stove on the same slide-out shelf.You mentioned that you posted this before. Sorry, but I missed it. Did it include a description of the installation and the hardware? How to find it again?
Ken Saum - "Been There"
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Doug
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 : 00:49:49

The shelf itself is very easy- There's drawer runners from the hardware store holding a shelf. To keep things from sliding off I attached a couple of drawer handles sticking up from the shelf to act as a rail. Then I attached a couple of stanless latches under the shelf to lock it in either the open or closed position.

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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Doug
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 : 00:55:16

Ed,
Love the PVC propane box. I've been looking for a clean & easy way to store a couple of tanks outside of the boat. I'll be setting that up before the season starts!

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 : 23:07:58

Hey Doug and Ruth,

I remember, back in the 1970s, I had a pipe that looked like that fitting. By the way it was "legal" back then in Ohio.

Now-a-dayz it's life without parole.

Oh Lord, please spare my poor soul, I miss the good old dayz. Except for Urban Cowboy and Saturday Night Fever.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bummed out stinkboater.

Oh yea, Hey Buzz, I bought that butane stove. $14.99 + Shipping. Thanks for the tip.

PW

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 00:49:29

Doug, It's just a 6" PVC pipe, 2 end caps, the bottom being glued and the top not glued for removal. I drilled a hole in the center of each end cap, so as not to create a bomb.<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> The tank holds about 1 gallon. Since heating with the stove is a no no I need to find a heater that is like the wood stoves available with venting. Hey, how about running the 4 stroke on propane? I had a truck once that ran on propane.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
1978 #765 SK, Stnd, Dinette ~_/)~

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 00:52:31

Oh yea, Hey Buzz, I bought that butane stove. $14.99 + Shipping. Thanks for the tip.

PW


Good! I hope it works OK, or my name'll be mud ...

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 01:04:37

"...I need to find a heater that is like the wood stoves available with venting." - Ed

From SailNet,

without venting

Origo Portable Heat Pal Alcohol Heater/Stove $99.99

Compact portable heater provides a safe, pressure-free heat source that also doubles as a single burner stove. Constructed of rugged aluminum and stainless steel, this heater will provide years of safe heat for any cabin or enclosure.
<img src="http://www.sailnet.com/store/prodimage/160x160/org5100.gif" border=0>

and with venting,

Force 10 Cozy Cabin Propane(or Diesel/Kerosene) Heater $298.00

Warms your cabin with 6000 Btu of vented dry heat. A Piezo spark ignition with push-to-turn control knob makes the Cozy Cabin heater virtually child-proof. Safety is further enhanced with no standing pilot light or matches required. The control valve incorporates a thermocouple that provides 100% gas shutoff, should the flame be extinguished. An oxygen depletion sensor closes the gas valve whenever the cabin oxygen level drops below 95% of normal levels. Bulkhead mount. Includes deck cap assembly and guard.
<img src="http://www.sailnet.com/store/prodimage/large/ftn10000.jpg" border=0>

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 03:12:01

Another warning regarding disposable propane canisters. I have one that leaks when it is disconnected from the torch it is attached to. After I used the torch the first time I disconnected the torch from the bottle and set them on the work bench to cool. A few minutes later I noticed a gas smell. I could not get the bottle to stop leaking until I screwed the torch back on.

Ed what kind of tank do you have in the tube? The tall disposible kind right?

Regarding heating - what does the oven you installed do to the cabin temp? I think I read here also a suggestion to use a clay pot on the stove top as a heater. No thermostat in this though.

Todd Hansen
San Luis Obispo, CA

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Bill Sloane
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 16:25:06

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I remember, back in the 1970s, I had a pipe that looked like that fitting. By the way it was "legal" back then in Ohio.

Now-a-dayz it's life without parole.
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OK, Clue me in. Is a 6" diameter PVC pipe with two end caps now considered a bomb? I think it is a great way to attach a propane tank to the stern of a boat to allow escaping propane to exit the area.

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Picture of 'Shoes' above. Don, Buzz. How do you make this image small?

Bill
'Suede Shoes' SR/SK No. 496
Hammersley Inlet, Washington

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 18:06:33

Picture of 'Shoes' above. Don, Buzz. How do you make this image small?

Bill
'Suede Shoes' SR/SK No. 496
Hammersley Inlet, Washington


Wow Bill ... she's a beauty! BTW, instead of using the URL for the full-sized photo, simply use the URL for the thumbnail instead ... it'll give you a smaller photo, and it is also a good size to include in your Forum signature block.

Let me know if you have any questions ... 'nice boat!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 18:47:51

Right click on the small thumbnail picture when you are in shutterfly(This is the small picture you see before you click on it and make it big).

You can do that or simply right click on this photo, select properties, then copy and paste the address.

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Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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