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albert
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Initially Posted - 01/28/2003 :  00:12:38  Show Profile  Visit albert's Homepage
Just want to share <i>Abacus'</i> newly installed Starboard Counter. BTW, although fuel is expensive, I find that the Origo stove provides more than enough heat to cook just about anything--without the worry of propane leaks (I worry enough with my swing keel and to-hulls <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> ). The gimbal and pot holders have allowed us to cook while underway.

BEFORE: I had nowhere to prep food:
<img src="http://www.comhertz.com/abacus/Pics2/counter1.jpg" border=0>

ADDED starboard counter:
<img src="http://www.comhertz.com/abacus/Pics2/counter2.jpg" border=0>

COUNTER held in place by pin made from aluminum rod:
<img src="http://www.comhertz.com/abacus/Pics2/counter4.jpg" border=0>

WHERE TO STORE WHILE COOKING:
<img src="http://www.comhertz.com/abacus/Pics2/counter3.jpg" border=0>

Left rests on vented doors, back rests on ledge below Origo, Right is held by L-Bracket (also keeps from sliding forward):
<img src="http://www.comhertz.com/abacus/Pics2/counter5.jpg" border=0>

Albert Iturrey
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<i>Abacus'</i>: http://www.comhertz.com/abacus



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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  00:43:36  Show Profile
<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> COOL IDEA, Albert!! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  01:00:20  Show Profile
Very nice shelf mod! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

I agree about the Origo providing enough heat to cook. Although I really haven't used my stove, I've used these types for years when camping. Yeah, a propane stove will boil water faster, but if I was in that much of a hurry, I'd own a powerboat.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  08:24:28  Show Profile
Speaking of stoves

(I hear a collective groan from the experienced crew)

My new 89WK/TR has one of the old pressurized stoves. I gather from the forum that the best thing is to throw it our right away and don't mess with it. I keep hearing how slow an Origo is compared to propane. Has anybody timed just how long it takes to boil a quart of water with a new origo vs propane? I'm hearing more groans from a restless crew out there. Have patience with a newbie. Or as my Mom used to say, "Don't mock the afflicted"

Frank Gloss
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  09:22:49  Show Profile
Hi all,

I am certainly one of the advocates for the Origo stove. I replaced the original "Princess" stove after only a couple years of excitement (including one grounding) that I can blame directly on the Princess. The new Origo fit right into the same stainless steel tray that the Princess came out of. Here is a link to a photo of my setup on Snickerdoodle (found in the tech tips section of this website).

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/sdgalmod.jpg

If you look closely, you can see that the bottom curtain rod is bent. This was a result of one exciting flare-up. Did you know that the standard fire extinguisher only provides about 10 seconds of extinguishing............

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839


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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  10:14:11  Show Profile
For you folks new to alcohol (stoves that is)... keep a spray bottle of water handy around a pressurized alcohol stove. A little water puts an alcohol fire out immediately...
(but not the curtains) (grins).

My big trouble with the Origo and all the other 'marine' stoves of the same caliber is the price... $300 - $500 for what is essentially a rather small tin box.

Heck, for a few dollars more, you can get something like this...

http://www.dickinsonmarine.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?catalogid=32

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  10:38:50  Show Profile
Newbies: My father once told me not to believe anything I hear, and only half of what I see. Sometimes it might sound to a new C25 owner that everything on your boat needs to be replaced. That has not been my experience...

I am not much of a cook, certainly, but I do a fair amount of cruising most summers. I HAVE to have brewed coffee in the morning! I have a big pot that makes about 10 cups. I use the original drop in pressurized alcohol stove. Once I learned to use it properly, which means pre burning a partial burner load of fuel before a second lighting, I have had NO significant problems with pressurized alcohol. Yes, one needs to maintain the gaskets in the pump, and many years ago I did use a rebuild kit on the burners. They can be adjusted, you know, for a good flame.

Frankly, I have found it safe, reliable and, yes, somewhat slow. It takes at least 20 minutes for my big pot to make coffee in the morning, but I rest easy knowing that a fire is easily extinguished, and that the fuel won't explode. BTW: I do not often use the marine brand of fuel. Simple denatured alcohol from the hardware store is the same thing for less than half the price. "Long live the curtain burner!"

And my '78 still has the "to-hulls". Whaddya know........? I think that occasionally the "alarms" sounded on the forum are a little too shrill. Why is it that my old boat, which get lots of use, has not had the problems that a few report? I am not that lucky in any other areas of my life. I do know that a little maintenance, (i.e. a cable replacement every several years), goes a long way.....My advice is: Keep an eye on things, do routine maintenance, carry fire extinguishers and tapered wooden plugs (even through hulls fail!), and don't panic.....

Gary B.
Encore! # 685 SK/SR in freshwater


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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  11:14:37  Show Profile
<font color=blue>... my '78 still has the "to-hulls". Whaddya know........? I think that occasionally the "alarms" sounded on the forum are a little too shrill. Why is it that my old boat, which get lots of use, has not had the problems that a few report? I am not that lucky in any other areas of my life. I do know that a little maintenance, (i.e. a cable replacement every several years), goes a long way.....My advice is: Keep an eye on things, do routine maintenance, carry fire extinguishers and tapered wooden plugs (even through hulls fail!), and don't panic.....

Gary B.
Encore! # 685 SK/SR in freshwater
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Hi Gary,

I'm glad that you occasionally remind us that these older boats aren't "accidents waiting to happen" ... it can get a bit disconcerting reading about other's mishaps. For example, when I ran aground a couple of weeks ago, the FIRST thing that went through my mind was that the keel was somehow going to crash into the trunk and sink the boat. It didn't ... I raised the keel a bit, and she sailed off the sand bar just like she's supposed to.

Don't get me wrong, I WANT to know about the mishaps others have had to endure so I can do the best I can to prevent them happening to my boat. Your comment about maintenance and keeping an eye on things is key. I treat my boat just like I used to treat airplanes back in my Air Force flying days ... I always do walk-arounds and check things out, and I use checklists for routine procedures so I don't forget steps.

I LOVE my boat! Whether you've got a swing, a fin, or a wing, a standard rig or a tall one, a dinette or a traditional, a 2-stroke or a 4-stroke, etc. etc. Catalinas are great boats!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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albert
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  11:23:18  Show Profile  Visit albert's Homepage
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Hi all,

I am certainly one of the advocates for the Origo stove. I replaced the original "Princess" stove after only a couple years of excitement (including one grounding) that I can blame directly on the Princess. The new Origo fit right into the same stainless steel tray that the Princess came out of. Here is a link to a photo of my setup on Snickerdoodle (found in the tech tips section of this website).

http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/sdgalmod.jpg

If you look closely, you can see that the bottom curtain rod is bent. This was a result of one exciting flare-up. Did you know that the standard fire extinguisher only provides about 10 seconds of extinguishing............

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839


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Bill,

I noticed that your Origo doesn't have the "flame diffusers" on them (see my 3rd picture "hold down pin"). Origo provides them for free. Call them at 941 355-4488. They prevent high flames when the stove is on high and there's nothing on the burner.


Albert Iturrey
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<i>Abacus'</i>: http://www.comhertz.com/abacus

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 :  00:44:12  Show Profile
Just wondering, has anyone in a Pre-1980 C-25 SK ever experienced all of these failures during one day's sailing: pulled out a to-hull, snapped the keel cable, curtains set on fire, dismasted due to a failed aluminum spreader socket...Makes you hope no one named Murphey owns one of our boats! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>


Larry Charlot
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Sacramento, CA

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 :  14:01:36  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
...pulled out a to-hull, snapped the keel cable, curtains set on fire, dismasted due to a failed aluminum spreader socket...
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Don't forget "...flipped a switch and caused the gasoline fumes in the sail locker and bilge to explode..." <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 :  00:50:09  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Don't forget "...flipped a switch and caused the gasoline fumes in the sail locker and bilge to explode..." <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

How could I have forgotten! The gas tank in the lazarette is one of the "features" on Quiet Time that worries me the most! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>


Larry Charlot
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