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SEAN
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Initially Posted - 06/26/2013 : 13:49:02

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1%7C311%7C302335%7C7364%7C939808& id=1787004

Defender has a 6.6 gas can that fits in the gas well on the 250 .
I saw others were looking for a bigger tank .

This one has no primer ball , I was not sure if it was going to start
But it did after third try with electric start not bad I thought for a new
Can .
Also the gas line is way short 8" of hose on each Side max ,
So you need more hose or use from the old tank witch I did .
It's for a Mercury motor I used my old fitting too .

It's I tight fit in the locker you can only put it in or out when it's empty
If I pull up to the gas dock the hose can reach ,so keeping it in is not a problem

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Response Posted - 06/26/2013 : 14:17:24

Sean, can you take a pic showing the fuel tank in the fuel locker?

Paul

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Response Posted - 06/26/2013 : 14:50:54

Take careful measurements before you order one of these tanks. I had the exact same tank and it would not fit into the locker on my '97 boat. It was very-very close, and probably could have been pounded in, but you were never getting it back out again. It'd go in sideways with the handle toward the cabin, and it looked like maybe if you took off the stern rail bolts you might be able to rotate it flat in the locker. I was worried the rail mounting hardware would abrade the tank, so I decided it wasn't worth it to me to try and force it in.

It may well fit in other model years (like Sean's 2002), but it definitely wouldn't fit on mine. Fortunately I was able to sell it again for what I'd paid for it, so it was no loss.

Edited by - delliottg on 06/26/2013 14:52:13

SEAN
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Response Posted - 06/26/2013 : 18:23:57

ya its tight , you have to twist and push down , its the roll at the top of the locker that it hangs up on . Once its it its fine .

I had this same style when i got the boat , the bolts for the back rail might be close to the nut i don't remember that being a problem .
i did cut the black pipe back on the cowl to make a little more room but i still got it in and out before with a lot of difficulty .

you have to turn it on its side get it under the lip then twist and push down . the new one seemed to go in a little easier -just a hair .

ill take a video this weekend Paul , it is nice having the 6 gallon you don't have to stress about the gas level as much

Defender is a pain for returns ..30 days i think ?

Edited by - SEAN on 06/26/2013 18:33:21

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Response Posted - 06/27/2013 : 16:59:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd6C6WdXIl0& feature=youtube_gdata_player

Heres a video this new tank is Easyer then the old one ..

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Response Posted - 06/27/2013 : 18:25:36

Slide a thin piece of Starboard between the can and the bolts and you should be good to go without worry of wearing a hole in the tank.

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Response Posted - 06/27/2013 : 18:56:43

watching that video tells me that your locker is bigger than mine. I had to struggle to get it in sideways and couldn't rotate it down, you basically twist it a bit and it goes right in. It might help other folks if you posted the measurements of your locker so they'd have sort of a go-no-go gauge to figure out if it'll fit theirs. I thought I had mine on my phone, but I can't find them. I think I posted them in my thread about the OMC tank that eventually did fit in my locker. I'll see if I can find it.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 06/28/2013 : 12:11:20

My locker is 12" 1/8 front to back
And 18 3/4 side to side
That's the open space measurement .
This tank is a little smaller then the old one ..
Or the old one lost its shape ...

So far so good with the tank it starts right up ,
I would have to prime the old one pretty firm

Edited by - SEAN on 06/28/2013 12:13:55

edguide1
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Response Posted - 07/04/2013 : 13:18:46

I bought one of these and it fits my 1995 250 water ballast hull #21.

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Response Posted - 05/04/2014 : 16:08:54

I just bought one of these and it fits mine, also. More than doubled my tank size and the gas guy is much happier then when I would top off my 3 gallon tank.

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Response Posted - 05/04/2014 : 18:41:03

Where did you get it! (link!!!)

paul

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Response Posted - 05/04/2014 : 22:49:00

Same place Sean did.

http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2349063& id=1787004

I forgot to mention, I did have to take the hose off and replace it with the Honda fitting. Then I just use my same hose. All is well.

Edited by - CJRoxs on 05/04/2014 22:58:18

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Response Posted - 05/04/2014 : 22:57:51

Not sure why the link is posting the way it is but you need the whole link. Click and paste should work.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 03:35:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CJRoxs
 Not sure why the link is posting the way it is but you need the whole link. Click and paste should work.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

didn't

Paul

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 03:37:08

Time for a lesson in TINYURL creator, better yet get the plugin for firefox.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 03:54:45

Is it [url="http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|311|2349059|2349063&id=1787004"]this one[/url]

The method to post url's, especially ones that have odd chars in them, is to use this format.

<center>(url="put.the.url.here")some text(/url)</center>

Replace the () with Square Brackets. And the Quotes must be "(double quote) not '(single quote) !!!!

Paul

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 04:32:12

That's the one. Thanks.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 11:27:35

OK, you guys are getting me interested. It's only about twice a year that I need >3 gallons, but even on those limited occasions it would be nice to have it all inside the fuel locker.

Are any of you concerned about safety of being unable to remove the full tank from the locker? It really is much safer, from a static and grounding perspective, to have the fuel tank up on the dock when fueling. Are you sure that the tank won't fit inside once filled? Do the sides bulge out that much?

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 15:18:24

The increased fuel capacity has made my life easier. I don't use much fuel, but it's nice not having to worry if I have enough fuel to return to my slip if the winds die or having to carry additional gas cans on deck for longer trips. I add fuel to the onboard tank from a gas can I bring from home/gas station, it's a lot less expensive than the gas sold at my marina. For storing the boat at the end of the season I run the tank down and then siphon the rest. I can then remove the gas tank from the locker. When it has gas in it, it bulges too much to insert or remove from the fuel locker.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 15:43:53

Rick,
Take careful measurements before you purchase that particular tank. I had the exact same one and could not get it into my fuel locker (as I mentioned several posts above in this thread). I don't know if they changed the fuel locker dimensions between your year & mine (1998 / 1997), but it might be worth looking into the [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&whichpage=1.8&TOPIC_ID=23405&"]OMC tank[/url] I have instead. They're not cheap, and it's not going to come out really easily, but it will go in and out, where I absolutely could not get the Mercury into our locker other than sideways (one side down), and it couldn't be rotated flat.

I also fill my tank from a smaller gas can with a float enabled funnel that tells you when you're getting close to the top.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 16:33:32

so its been about a year my tank still goes in and out ok ..but it is tight .
it will fit full , but theres a risk of a leak because of the angle going in , from cap seal or vent seal .
also my bolts are cut flush to the nut holding the stern rail on .

The tank bulges when the vent is closed and the tank heats up , over time the tank might warp out ?

I always fuel up with tank in place , unless i carry fuel out .
safty for me is not spilling it

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 17:14:30

Not worried about safety as there needs to be spark for ignition and there isn't any spark source anywhere near my tank when fueling, even the motor is off. I've never had any issues with static and I leave the vent open.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 18:37:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by CJRoxs
 Not worried about safety as there needs to be spark for ignition and there isn't any spark source anywhere near my tank when fueling, even the motor is off. I've never had any issues with static and I leave the vent open.
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Don't be so sure. You might be surprised.

I have a Sunbrella cover for my wheel. Every time I brush my arm against it, I hear and feel static. I have a nylon cover for my outboard cowling. I never noticed it until tonight, but it does the same thing. Both of these are about a foot from my tank. I now make 100% sure to make sure all covers are removed before I connect, vent, or otherwise open the fuel tank.

Someone over on Sailnet mentioned covering his jerry cans with a plastic tarp to prevent the sun from degrading them. I think his cans were for diesel, which won't explode with a spark. But if it's gasoline, that's a big problem.

Also, I would recommend storing your tank with the vent closed. It's the escaping fumes that will catch fire, so you want to keep them contained. Also, with E10 gas, leaving the vent open will cause the tank to "breathe" every night when it gets cool, pumping humidity into the gas which will oxidize to create organic acids. IMO your gas will stay healthier if you keep your tank sealed.

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Response Posted - 05/05/2014 : 21:58:42

I don't have a wheel or a cowling cover. I do have a tiller cover which is always removed before leaving the slip. As for the vent, I use the boat daily and haven't had any issues with the fuel. I do close the vent if I won't be coming to the boat for a few days or if we get a bad spell of weather. However, you may have a point now that I have a bigger tank. The fuel didn't last to long in the small tank.

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Response Posted - 06/01/2014 : 15:06:38

I laughed at the need for a large gas tank
My 20 liter stainless steel tank lasts 6 months easily
I usually sail everywhere
Ran out of gas yesterday also ran out of wind

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Response Posted - 06/02/2014 : 14:47:29

I bought a 6 gallon tank from a board member a year or two ago but haven't found a use for it. My 3 gallon tank works fine for my use, I put a couple gallons it in every 4 to 6 weeks. It's only a 10 minute motor out to the bay so I just don't use much.

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