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Kennyge
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Initially Posted - 07/28/2013 : 10:45:10

A friend of mine who is an avid sailor, with a Tanzer 22, recommends that I install a deck pipe in my anchor locker and feed the line down into the compartment in the front end of the v berth. He says that in an emergency when I need to get the anchor out fast this will make it much faster and easier.

I am concerned about putting a 1-1/2" hole in the locker as well as getting debris down in the forward compartment. I searched this site and can not find any advice on this subject. Has anyone done this or have recommendations?

Kennyg
1985 C25 TR/FK
AHOY VEY! - Hull # 4952
Out of Bayside, Queens,NY

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 07/28/2013 : 11:07:35

If you lay the rode into your anchor locker, starting with the bitter end and ending with the chain and anchor on top of everything, deployment couldn't be much simpler and quicker. (I had a u-bolt in there to tie off the bitter end.) I don't recommend coiling and wrapping the rode.

The wood-paneled bow compartment under the locker currently is not water-tight, while the fiberglass locker (supposedly) holds water and drains through the bow--both green water and rain. The compartment does not. The rode is pretty wet when you pull up the anchor. A lower drain could be added, but it would be closer to the waterline, and if it clogs, your v-berth could be a swamp.

IMHO, you're good the way you are, and the alternative is not as simple as it might seem to your friend.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/28/2013 : 14:56:35

I agree with Dave. I think your friend is mistaken.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/28/2013 : 20:12:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">He says that in an emergency when I need to get the anchor out fast this will make it much faster and easier.
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IMHO, the fastest way to deploy the anchor, is to have it mounted on a roller. I can drop the anchor without having to open the locker:

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redviking
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Response Posted - 07/30/2013 : 13:43:04

I just need someone to post my image... No access...

150' rode, 50' of chain... A very comfortable wife... Still scratching my head on that one...

sten

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 07/30/2013 : 18:44:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redviking
 I just need someone to post my image... No access... 150' rode, 50' of chain... A very comfortable wife... Still scratching my head on that one...

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Kennyge
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Response Posted - 08/01/2013 : 07:16:30

Thanks all. I took your advise and cleaned out the locker, neatly coiled the rode and placed the anchor on top. I purchased a s/s u-bolt at Ace and will be it in the aft of the locker to tie the bitter end.

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Response Posted - 08/01/2013 : 07:57:55

Perfect. Although I like a sort of "figure 8"-style pile for the rode, which (ironically) reduces tangles because it helps prevent coil loops from getting caught in each other--often due to the twisting when you coil rope. It doesn't look neat, but it's what you get when you feed the rode down a deck pipe or through a windlass. Just lay the rode down in a random pattern with reversed turns so "it's all on top of itself."

If your U-bolt is like mine was, just remember that it isn't meant to hold the boat at anchor--it's there to prevent accidentally losing the rode when it isn't cleated. The locker walls are not strong (like the cored deck), and the bolt will not be pulled in the same manner as a bow cleat.

Fair winds...

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 08/01/2013 08:08:48

delliottg
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Response Posted - 08/01/2013 : 08:13:41

You really want to avoid "neatly" coiling your rode. You want to create a "last in, first out" pile so it'll run freely when you need it to. A coiled line can snag whereas a piled line tends not to. When I bring my rode in, I just let the line fall into the anchor locker without any arranging on my part. When it comes time to pay it out when dropping the anchor, it just smoothly runs out of the locker.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/01/2013 : 08:52:49

I prefer the figure eights. Coiling or pulling a line from a coil adds a turn of twist for each loop and adds hockles that can twist together and foul the line. Figure eights create opposing twists that cancel out; it is the best way to stow any line. Our shallow lockers can make just letting the line fall problematic, as can shaking up the pile when pounding into a sea.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/01/2013 : 12:33:25

The anchor locker on a C-25 isn't shallow, it's huge for a boat this size. I was able to keep two rodes (one 250', one 150') and two anchors (13lb Danforth and 22lb Bruce) in the locker on my C-25, with rode ready to run. It was tight, but doable.

The locker on my Pearson is quite a bit smaller and fits 300' of rode or a smallish Danforth anchor, but not both.

I agree that you want the rode to be able to run freely. For most line I prefer to counter coil instead of do figure 8s, but for anchor rode I do it the same was a delliottg.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/03/2013 : 03:35:51

I call it shallow in that the rode must be arranged as opposed to a locker that is narrow and deep enough to simply let the rode fall as it is recovered. I agree that it is decent sized, but the pile from letting 150' just fall wouldn't work very well. Not complaining, I appreciate being able to easily store a couple hundred feet of rode and anchor in a foredeck locker.

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