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Captain Max
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Initially Posted - 10/09/2013 :  18:45:22  Show Profile
Has anybody out there added a bowsprit to their Catalina 25? I would like an easier way to handle the anchor. I'm most concerned with supporting the sprit on the bow and what would be the cheapest wood that would work.
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Davy J
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Response Posted - 10/09/2013 :  18:56:20  Show Profile

You don't actually need a sprit. A anchor roller will do just fine.

Windline model urm-2:
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Captain Max
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Response Posted - 10/09/2013 :  19:03:25  Show Profile
That would be the smart way to go! However, I like the look of a bowsprit so I was playing around with the idea.
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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 10/09/2013 :  19:12:21  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
I am also one of those guys that likes the look of a good bowsprit.



I intend to look into installing one of these....
http://www.teakflex.com/bowsprit.htm

Ok...now that I have looked at the pricing........maybe not so much.
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Captain Max
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Response Posted - 10/09/2013 :  19:35:38  Show Profile
Yeah, I think I was on their site. They are not cheap!
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 10/09/2013 :  22:00:26  Show Profile
Captain Max,
One thing you shuold check as part of the evaluation is what does your marina base its slip fee on. Mine charges by the actual length of the boat, or the length of the slip, whichever is longer. Adding a bowsprit would increase the the amount I pay each month. One foot of bowsprit would cost me an additonal $13.50 per month.
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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 10/10/2013 :  01:29:35  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Custom made by PO. I've added the anchor roller.
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Captain Max
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Response Posted - 10/10/2013 :  07:35:47  Show Profile
Impressive sprit! It looks like you added structural support via the rods going down to mid bow. I am aware my slip fees could change. (To previous remark)
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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 10/12/2013 :  08:09:01  Show Profile  Visit Lee Panza's Homepage
An important point to consider, if one is thinking about adding a sprit (as I've been lately) or even an extended roller, is how the anchor rode will be affected when riding-out a storm on the hook. We might not expect to ever be in that situation, but circumstances don't always play out according to our expectations.

Our boats are short and light, and it doesn't take much chop to get them to pitch pretty radically. When that happens the rode is alternately subject to high tension and then substantial slack (and it can move around unpredictably when the bow dips). I would not install one of those pretty wooden platforms even if they were giving them away. OTOH, Tomas' assembly looks like it could hold up to a lot of abuse (depending on how it's fastened to the hull and how the roller is installed).

EDIT: I remembered this after posting the above. There's some valuable advice (and some sobering photographs) on a website maintained by a fellow up in Maine. While this set of pix was primarily addressing the potential for conflict between bow-mounted anchors and mooring-ball pendants, there's a sequence of shots about a bowsprit platform that took a beating. There are also several good pix showing the neighboring boats pitching in the chop as I described above.

http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/mooring_prep
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/12/2013 :  08:54:12  Show Profile
I'm curious about the appendage angling down from the end of the platform--is that a ladder for boarding over the bow from a dock? I see the pulpit is split (presumably custom), which could make boarding and anchoring even easier.

Regarding stresses and possible chafe on an anchor roller, after setting the anchor, you can put some slack on the rode and then pull it up from below the roller and cleat it off to the bow cleat on the other side. That way, there's no stress on the roller--just a loop of rope hanging across the bow. I do that on my boat, which has an electric windlass and a roller--not for lunch-hooking, but definitely for overnight, as you can sorta see here:
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Captain Max
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Response Posted - 10/12/2013 :  16:16:12  Show Profile
Cleating off the rode is something I hadn't thought about! I was really concerned about the stesses put on the bow. If one were to mount one, I assume one needs to backplate or otherwise reinforce the bow.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 10/12/2013 :  19:07:14  Show Profile
Lee, thanks for that great link. I only moor occasionally, but that is an aye opener.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 10/13/2013 :  06:28:45  Show Profile
Wow! I hadn't thought about mooring pennants being tossed over an anchor roller from extreme pitching (and submerging), although I've seen that kind of pitching in mooring fields many times. It's not clear how you solve that except not to take a mooring in places like those! (I just happen to live on the bank of a nice "hurricane hole.")
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