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River Harley
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Initially Posted - 02/18/2003 : 19:11:25

Not having come with an anchor roller as a stock item, has anyone found them to be a pretty essential item on the 250? I've been considering having one installed. Is this something I can live without?

River Harley

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 19:51:48

There has been at least one installed and I think the owner really enjoyed it. One of the problems is the mast raising system on the trailers after the '97 model year changed. A roller will obstruct the raising of the gin pole and in fact may interfere with the collapsed gin pole.

If you use a trailer... check it out.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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lewalskim
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Response Posted - 02/25/2003 : 12:45:42

Does anyone know who has done this and how? I'd be interested in adding this too. I've got a W/B model but don't ever intend to trailer it (no trailer), I bought it because of the centerboard/shallow draft.

Mark Lewalski
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Safety Harbor, Fl (aka Tampa Bay)

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DougA
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Response Posted - 02/25/2003 : 14:31:53

I bought my 96 250 used and it came with an anchor roller. Next time I go to the storage yard I'll get the name and model number off it.

Doug A., C250wb, San Franciscp Bay area

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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 02/25/2003 : 21:49:57

Since this topic keeps popping up and Don L. has given explicit instructions on how to post pictures I will attempt to share the pictures that Davis Northangle shared with me on how he installed his bow roller.
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<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df06b3127cce944032c5b1370000000010" border=0>On the hard &
Under Roof Cave Run Lake KY
Ray Seitz C 250WB #628 Sea Major

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 13:27:35

Although Davis N. has one heck of an impressive bow set up, I was hoping to keep it more simple. I've been mulling over the bow roller idea for some time and question why perhaps a bow roller that is commonly used by most c25 owners can't be implemented on the c250. If mast raising isn't an issue (keep my baby in a wetslip) can this be done? http://www.sailingsource.com/creative/catalog/text/bowroll.htm

Doug A. is this the type of roller you have on your boat? Also anyone else do this type of mod? Wondering about the bolts into the
bow?

Tropical Sleigh wb250 hull 619
Sarasota Fl

Suzie
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 14:35:28

Susie,

The two boats are dissimilar in the space that they offer to mount the roller. The c250 has a very narrow area between the anchor locker lid and the deck rolloff to the rub rail.

Keep in mind that some of those who have added a roller to their C25, made modifications to their anchor locker lid as well but I think overall, they had more surface to work with.

I have studied Davis's mount and he did a very good job. I am thinking however if I did it, I would bolt it on differently which wouldn't require the inspection ports added within the anchor locker. I think tubing could be fastened to the lip above the rub rail and then secured to slugs below the Catalina shoe box deck overhang much the same way as the shrouds are secured on the water ballast boats.

What keeps me from going ahead with the project is that I store my Bruce anchor in one of the cockpit lockers and this allows both anchors to be stored with rode ready and its sometimes use it as a stern anchor.

I think the Bruce anchor actually takes up less space in the cockpit locker than a Danfort would. I place the Bruce in the locker first and then the rode cuddles into the pocket made by the anchor. The anchor quickly comes right out of this leaving the rode to pay out. A Danforth would require the anchor to be above the rode. The anchor kinda cuddles the rode within its shape.

If however, my starboard locker were mostly consumed by the propane tank...I might quickly decide on a bow roller.

Actually, I think that once the c250s hit a production number of 1500 or so, there might be enough base for some custom offerings like a bow roller mount.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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sailgal
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 14:54:48

Hmm, good points to ponder Arlyn. I enjoy use of my propane tank, so locker space as you know is at a premium. I'll have to think on this some more. In the mean time, lets hope production keeps climbing. Ha

Still I wonder about what type of roller set up Doug A in San Fran. has on his 96!? Happy sailing!

Suzie
Tropical Sleigh WB#619
Sarasota FL.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 03/07/2003 : 19:34:24

First of all, I have a C25 and don't know if this would work on a C250. But I hope it helps.

I installed the Windline AR-2 roller (http://www.windline.com/rollerpulleyonly.html) with zero modifications on my C25 (other than drilling 3 holes for mounting bolts). It's very small (fore/aft mounting dimension of only 4"), inexpensive (about $35) and takes up little room, being mounted slightly at an angle to one side of where the forstay connects to the bow.

While anchor mounting isn't possible, this isn't a big deal to me because the most important advantage of an anchor roller is the ability to raise and lower the anchor from a spot back several feet from the bow. Prior to installing this roller, raising my heavy anchor with a bunch of chain meant leaning over the bow/side (with lots of sweat and back strain) and having to use all arm muscles to bring the anchor in. With the small roller, I have a larger, more balanced platform, enabling almost the exclusive use of much stronger butt/leg muscles. Anchor retrieval is thus <u>much</u> easier.

The job of anchor storage is done by the anchor locker, which suits me fine (but I've seen others store them on hangers off the bow rail).

Hope this helps.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 03/19/2003 : 00:28:42

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd39b3127cce95384691ae7d0000001610" border=0>This anchor roller photo was taken by a fellow 250 owner who installed a Windline roller AR -3. You can't store the anchor on it but it will save my back. I also ordered the anchor bracket which I'll hang on the bow rail.<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd39b3127cce95384761ee150000001610" border=0>I purchased both parts this week from sailnet.

Suzie
Tropical Sleigh WB#619
Sarasota FL.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/19/2003 : 08:46:00

Susie... Tim's setup looks very good and should greatly ease the setting and hauling of the anchor but one area of concern is that the c250 in high winds will sail broadside to her rode. Make sure that the rode will not chaff on the roller frame if brought out at a 90 degree angle albeit a few degees down angle. I'm thinking there might also be concern about the leverage on the roller frame against the bolting in a high wind. The rode could be chocked thru the normal fairlead and the roller used during hoisting or setting which should work great and may be exactly what you had in mind.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224
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Dragonfly
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Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 01:15:09

Suzie,
Please let us know how easy it was to install your new anchor roller.
Also, if you were satisfied with the brand you purchased.
If you can post some pics when it's done that would be nice.
Thanks

C-250 WK #641
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Lake Texoma, Texas

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 11:35:10

I'm anxiously awaiting the items. I don't think the roller should be to much trouble to install. Three holes in bow deck for bolts which can be accessed thru my anchor locker inspection port, and a lot of 5200 sealant. I'll take pictures of process.

Suzie
Tropical Sleigh WB#619
Sarasota FL.

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